we are trying to bolt them in right to an integra... they are sparco harnesses.

and we tried bolting the inner sides to where the back seat belt recievers bolt in

and the outers to where the top of the back seatbelts are (in the c pillar)

and it just wasnt working...


can anyone help out....

places to bolt these in?
locations?
pics? etc...

 

do u have back seats in?

 

they are not in use.... but it really doesnt matter.... we can take them out or keep them in....

 

You need a cage with a harness bar. That is how they were designed to work.

Trying to attach them the way you're describing will make the car a death trap if driven on public roads. There is no more important safety item in a vehicle than the seat belts, do not compromise the operation and use of them.

But really, any sort of fixed harnesses on a car that is not tracked (and I mean autox or road racing) is pointless. Don't risk your health, life, and safety for some dumb items that make your car look like a "race car".

 

ordered a harness bar.

thanks guys.

 

harness bar, what is said bar attaching to? I hope it's not a C-pillar bar because that won't cut it for attaching harnesses.

You have to have a cage or roll bar (with harness bar inside of it) if you want to use harnesses on the street and not risk certain death in the event of a roll-over.

 

i thought some companies sold specially made harness bars?

 

maybe, but if there's no rollover protection, it's still a death trap. When you're strapped into a harness, you can't lean over or move around much. If the car rolls over, most likely you'll be dead as the roof of the car crushes into your skull. With stock belts, there is room to move over and not get crushed by the roof if the car rolls over.

I'm telling you guys, DO NOT USE harnesses on the street without a roll bar or roll cage. I'm serious, it is nothing but a death wish. Drivers are stupid, anything can happen to your car at anytime without warning. Be safe, don't be stupid.

 

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Many people incorrectly think that these harnesses alone increase saftety. They can if they are mounted properly with a roll cage. But if you have a roll cage, you should really were a helmet in case your head impacts the cage during a collision.

 

not sure if this helps but i had no problem whatsoever putting them in my 01 LS. It took 20 minutes for both of them to be installed by just me.





IT CAN BE DONE. AND DONT BOLT IT TO THE C PILLAR JUST GET A HARNESS BAR.

 

Those are installed incorrectly, the angle of the shoulder straps are too far down where they bolt behind the seats. They need to be as close to parallel to the ground as possible. In a collision it can cause serious spinal compression. And of course not having rollover protection makes it a serious death trap.

I'M NOT TRYING TO HATE I'm trying to alert people of dangerous situations and help them stay safe. We don't need more reports of people dying or becoming paralyzed or whatever.

 

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I'M NOT TRYING TO HATE I'm trying to alert people of dangerous situations and help them stay safe. We don't need more reports of people dying or becoming paralyzed or whatever.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Ali

 

wow give this man a drink!

 

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I'M NOT TRYING TO HATE I'm trying to alert people of dangerous situations and help them stay safe. We don't need more reports of people dying or becoming paralyzed or whatever.</TD></TR></TABLE>

he knows what he's talking about. if you think about it, during a head on collision, the belt will put force downwards into your spine, instead of outward like stock seat belts. if you wanna be safe, just take out the harnesses and use the stock seatbelts until you get a harness bar. roll cage isn't really necessary IMO, but it's highly recommended

oh and for the record, don't use harnesses on the street at all. it's illegal well at least where i'm from. cops don't really care, but in reality, harnesses were made for the track, and NOT daily driving.

 

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if they are used on the street, yes it's 100% necessary. Maybe it's legal, maybe it's not, I don't know, but if they are used on the street there MUST be rollover protection, because we have no control over what happens around us, and a rollover collision could happen at any time.

 

so if i installed them wrong, how should i install them the right way? is there a thread for the right way? i guess i didnt know because thats how i saw everyone else do theres:

mine are bolted exactly like this first pic: (that someone from H-T no one said anything?)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by phantasticphan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so if i installed them wrong, how should i install them the right way? is there a thread for the right way? i guess i didnt know because thats how i saw everyone else do theres:

mine are bolted exactly like this first pic: (that someone from H-T no one said anything?)


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You must realize that most people on this website are in there teens with very little real-world experience. There is only one proper way to mount a racing harness in a car: attach it to a roll cage.

 

those are both installed incorrectly too. Harnesses are made to stretch a little on impact, but both of these have to much slack and may cause you to hit your steering wheel on a frontal collision.

 

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can you post another pic so i can see what you bolted yours too, i know one is the selt belt part don't know where the other spot is

 

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mine are bolted exactly like this first pic: (that someone from H-T no one said anything?)


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what he said is true. its RECOMMENDED that when installing 5 pt belts, that u mount them somewhere so that they are paraelle with ur shoulder , not down towards the ground like in the pics. ive read this somewhere and yes the results from a accident can cause serious damage on ur back and shoulders.

i suggest u mount them higher if u can or just wait till u get the harness

 

is it safe to use the stock seatbelt along with a bucket seat?

 

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This is also wrong because of the criss-crossed belts used with seats that have a single open hole near the top. You should never ever cross shoulder straps unless there are separate holes, otherwise they can cut into your neck.

Take a look through here, everything you need to know about mounting harnesses in a car:

http://www.schroth.com/install....html

 

ive got a friend who had harnesses set up lke that in his Recaro Replica seats... crashed into a tree going pretty fast off an on ramp. his arms hit the steering wheel cause it wanst tight ( he had them loose ) so juss few bruises but he didnt suffer from any spinal damage or neck damage..



(pics of seats in my OLD car with same harnesses)




they were bolted own like this







Modified by JDM DC4 Jesse at 8:53 PM 10/25/2006

 

looks like he had 3 pt

 

yeah think it was a 3 point.. iono but yeahh iono how he didnt get any neck or back or spinal damage?