So, I had been hearing this ever since I satrted my engine up...

here is a video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvzB2XtI0Rk

anyone in here wanna confirm what I am thinking? It doesn't do it all the time, I dont wanna say those dreadful words until someone else can confirm...

My h22 has been burning/losing lots of oil. I havent noticed any oil stains, so I assume its being all burned. I havent done a compression test yet, thats my next thing to do. But does this sound like it has a "rod knock"

 

sorry , i cant view the video here at work, but from what you describe that sounds like rod knock to me sucks man, you should get a oil pressure gauge hook it up to see what kind of pressure ur getting at various RPM's

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mykizism &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sorry , i cant view the video here at work, but from what you describe that sounds like rod knock to me sucks man, you should get a oil pressure gauge hook it up to see what kind of pressure ur getting at various RPM's</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks for the input. When you do get a chance, view it, and tell me your opinion. Thanks!

 

i wouldnt reccomend driving the car if anything

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mykizism &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i wouldnt reccomend driving the car if anything</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh, I am not. I just dont knoow what to do about fixxing it. I wonder if the block is damamged?

 

dude that majorly sucks yeah sounds like something bad is going on in there buddy hit me up if you need anything

 

Send me a PM if you want help rebuilding it

 

that sounds like extremely loose valves...AND the bottom end is very noisy....rod bearings gone bad. needs a full rebuild

 

How many miles on the engine?

 

sounds pretty bottom end to meeeee!

 

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don't know, bought it from h-t memeber Ballin H22 Ek...

said it ran perfectly fine when he pulled it. I would assume its got over 100k miles, but since Ive swapped, I would say Ive driven it 150-200 miles tops. Things kept going wrong...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sleepyH22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that sounds like extremely loose valves...AND the bottom end is very noisy....rod bearings gone bad. needs a full rebuild </TD></TR></TABLE>

what do you mean loose valves? Ive heard of having to adjust them, but them never being loose...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by InvaderTrax &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Send me a PM if you want help rebuilding it</TD></TR></TABLE>

sent you a PM...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ...me0w &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dude that majorly sucks yeah sounds like something bad is going on in there buddy hit me up if you need anything </TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks Timmy...

I am still just in shock!

 

Yea the valves dont get loose unless you royally hose a valve adjustment. They tighten as you go, hence if you go too long without a valve adjustment they tighten up too much and mess up the valve seals.

 

It kinda sounds like you may need a valve adjustment, esp since you said it happens intermittantly. Does it happen when the engine is hot or cold or will it just randomly start happening?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LudeBehavi0r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It kinda sounds like you may need a valve adjustment, esp since you said it happens intermittantly. Does it happen when the engine is hot or cold or will it just randomly start happening?</TD></TR></TABLE>

well, you can hear that it does it every now and then. But I just had to move my car, and I get in, start it up, and rev it to about 3k RPM, and as the RPM increase, so does the knocking sound. I think its 99% a rod knock. I am just in shock right now.

 

Is it going to be a rebuild or a build?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vinuneuro &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is it going to be a rebuild or a build?</TD></TR></TABLE>

well, ive got a spare f22 laying around. my initial thought was to do a full build, but going to do a mild build. looking for somewhere around 225 whp, N/A. so, ill do an f22 rod/crank swap. And some other stuff. Not just sure what parts I want to do.

Look for my build thread in the next month. I have never built an engine before, so this is going to be my first.

 

Not 100% sure but that really sounds like a rod knock to me. That sucks man. I remember when we dropped that motor in forever ago and you still can't drive it. I never thought it would happen but someone actually has a car that has more problems than mine. Sorry again man.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SlammedDC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not 100% sure but that really sounds like a rod knock to me. That sucks man. I remember when we dropped that motor in forever ago and you still can't drive it. I never thought it would happen but someone actually has a car that has more problems than mine. Sorry again man. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah. I have driven this car a total of maybe 200 miles since I got it back in April. But, ya live and learn. Im pretty sure its a rod knocking...

oh well...I think I am gonna pull it and start tearing it down sometime next month. There are some other things I wanna do. Relocate battery to the trunk, wire tuck. Convert to a manual steering rack, etc. All easier things to do with engine out of the car

 

i would check the valves first. it sounded A LOT like mine and mine were loose... (misshifted) and i took it in... they did a compression test and everything checked out... they said i just "knocked them loose" and i dont see how knocking them loose couldnt damage them... but she runs fine now

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by plikit &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i would check the valves first. it sounded A LOT like mine and mine were loose... (misshifted) and i took it in... they did a compression test and everything checked out... they said i just "knocked them loose" and i dont see how knocking them loose couldnt damage them... but she runs fine now </TD></TR></TABLE>

did u do a valve adjustment? did it work out fine?

 

Out of curiosity, how much do valve adjustments usually go for?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SlammedDC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Out of curiosity, how much do valve adjustments usually go for?</TD></TR></TABLE>

free when you do them yourself

but isnt that fact that the knocking sound gets faster as the RPM's increase, isn't that a dead giveaway its the rod knocking and not the valves?

 

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free when you do them yourself

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Then do tell how to do it. I am still learning and willing to learn more.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egcoupe94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">did u do a valve adjustment? did it work out fine?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yup, valve adjustment and she runs like normal.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egcoupe94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">free when you do them yourself

but isnt that fact that the knocking sound gets faster as the RPM's increase, isn't that a dead giveaway its the rod knocking and not the valves?</TD></TR></TABLE>

valvetrain noise got faster and louder as rpms went up for me.. its kinda hard to tell from the video. my car has never had a rod knock so i cant compare the 2 sounds. i was just sayin his sounded like mine. i dont see any harm in checkin the valves tho unless someone FOR SURE can say its the rods.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SlammedDC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Then do tell how to do it. I am still learning and willing to learn more.</TD></TR></TABLE>

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=618786

excellent DIY by shakes. Done on an h22. The setting for the valve lash may be different, but the procedure should be the same