Current Setup: (on 1999 Civic ex)

Koni Yellows (on lowest perch setting)
Eibach Pro Kit
JDM ITR Rear Sway Bar 23mm with ASR subframe Brace
CTR Front Upper Strut Bar
Omni Power Rear LCAs

I want to very seriously start auto-x, so im wondering what the best springs would be for my setup as Ive heard that the eibach pro kit is deemed as "soft springs".

 

well. since you already have Konis and Big rear sway that keeps you out of Stock classes and puts you into Modified or Prepared class

so, you'll most likely want some stiffer springs rates then you'll get with those springs you've listed.

just shell out $300 and get some Ground Control coilover sleeves for the KONIs

i'm used to EG and EF hondas, your 99 is a bit heavier
i'd say get spring rates in the 500front (500-600)rear range
though i have some friends that run in the 600f 700r range on EG hondas and liked it much better then 400-500 lb rates.

 

i personally say learn to drive the car and then build before you start changing to much.

 

everyone always says, "learn to drive first" . it's easy to give that response because so many people always ask this same question.

what everyone is really trying to make you realize in 10 words or less (LEARN TO DRIVE FIRST) is, driving is 90% of the game in autox. 8% tires, 2% car. This was not scientifically proven. just something to help you focus on the point of discussion.
don't expect to make vast improvements in your driving skill just by throwing parts at your car. though suspension and tires are going to be where you should place the majority of your concern if your wallet is burning a hole in your pocket. don't worry about HP at the beginning.
just look at some autox results across the country. one driver in our area beats just about the ENTIRE field of 300 cars in a CSP CRX . so that should make you realize that it isn't all about Horsepower.

How many people really drive their cars for a year or two without changing out components. anyone that loves cars is going to naturally want to make modifications to improve "HOPEFULLY" [handling, braking, and safety of their cars. ]

i personally say make minimum modifications to the vehicle. ask other drivers what setups they've had success with to get you in the ballpark.
then spend your driving time getting used to your car. i think you will get alot more out of it, and have more fun with some modest suspension.

you already are on the right track with the KONI's and the rear sway.

so what i'm saying is don't waste your money on some Neuspeed springs, etc.
just buy the Ground Controls. you can even start off with lower spring rates, and upgrade down the line if you want a stiffer setup.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spock_rocker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i personally say learn to drive the car and then build before you start changing to much. </TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridmoments &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">everyone always says, "learn to drive first" . it's easy to give that response because so many people always ask this same question.

what everyone is really trying to make you realize in 10 words or less (LEARN TO DRIVE FIRST) is, driving is 90% of the game in autox. 8% tires, 2% car. This was not scientifically proven. just something to help you focus on the point of discussion.
don't expect to make vast improvements in your driving skill just by throwing parts at your car. though suspension and tires are going to be where you should place the majority of your concern if your wallet is burning a hole in your pocket. don't worry about HP at the beginning.
just look at some autox results across the country. one driver in our area beats just about the ENTIRE field of 300 cars in a CSP CRX . so that should make you realize that it isn't all about Horsepower.

How many people really drive their cars for a year or two without changing out components. anyone that loves cars is going to naturally want to make modifications to improve "HOPEFULLY" [handling, braking, and safety of their cars. ]

i personally say make minimum modifications to the vehicle. ask other drivers what setups they've had success with to get you in the ballpark.
then spend your driving time getting used to your car. i think you will get alot more out of it, and have more fun with some modest suspension.

you already are on the right track with the KONI's and the rear sway.

so what i'm saying is don't waste your money on some Neuspeed springs, etc.
just buy the Ground Controls. you can even start off with lower spring rates, and upgrade down the line if you want a stiffer setup.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i agree with both of these. i drove my car stock for about 2 years (mainy because i was broke) and got really used to it and exactly what i wanted in the car. i realized what i needed to correct to suit my driving style. the suspension for me is now perfect. drive your car as is for now, then find what needs to be corrected and modify it in a timely manner

 

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i personally say make minimum modifications to the vehicle. ask other drivers what setups they've had success with to get you in the ballpark.
then spend your driving time getting used to your car. i think you will get alot more out of it, and have more fun with some modest suspension.
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well ive been driving it for a while now about 1.5 years and I want to change up the springs. This is that "if you dont like it later, you can always upgrade later" time. So, I dont want to upgrade after this again, not largely anyhow. Thats why I was kind of looking for suggestions in spring rates (just good rates for auto-x overall, I KNOW it depends on the driver) and if its better to have stiffer springs up front or in the rear?

 

anybody?

 

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I went from Koni/Pro-kit with no sway bars to koni/GC with rear 22mm sway and I liked it. I tracked the car with the pro-kits for a while and when I went up to the GCs I was very happy with the added performance. I'm running 450f/400r rates right now. 22mm rear bar, no front bar.

 

Depening on how serious you're going to get you will have to "play" with things for some time to get the car where you want it. GC's are very good for changing the springs on.
I'm at 450 front 500 rear. Some people like 900lb springs depending on the set up.

 

thanks for the insight, whats the highest spring rate konis can handle without having to be re-sleeved? do stiffer springs = a bumpier or softer ride?