riding clutch????
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riding clutch????
i recently put in a stage 1 competetion clutch in mt 92 civic. wen i am in first gear i hold down the clutch for about 3 seconds till it engages. is this considered riding the clutch?? help please!! 
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Re: riding clutch???? (ic89)
not nec. if you are slowly letting the clutch out, and keeping the rpm's at idle, you are ok, but you can still just practice and let the clutch out faster, it just takes time, but if you are winding up the motor to 2-3 grand, and letting the clutch out, you will be soon replacing that clutch again......
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Re: riding clutch???? (young noob)
my engine only idles at about 600-700 so i cant jus let it go i usually rec to about 1600 and it takes about 2.5 seconds till im fully of the clutch do u concider that riding or ok?
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Re: riding clutch???? (ic89)
yea, just practice, your car should stay at idle right up to the point that the clutch is fully disengaged, the best thing to do to learn how to not ride the clutch is to just milk the clutch, i.e. dont use the gas at all, just take it slow when you let the clutch out, and you can feel the engagement point, then just add gas as needed, its all about feel, so if you have a slipping clutch when you first are learning to drive like i did, it kinda sux, but you will eventually get used to it
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Re: riding clutch???? (ic89)
a slipping clutch is when either when you are disengaging the clutch, and its hard to find the engagement point, or if you are just cruising and you step on the gas, and the rpms just rise, and it feels like you are in neutral just revving the motor
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I might sound like a dick but I don't care.
Yes, you are riding the clutch incredibly bad.
If you can say "1 mississippi, 2 mississippi, 3 mississipp-" or "one one thousand, two one thousand, three one thousand" (3 actual counted seconds) and the clutch still isn't out, you are riding the clutch, hard.
Releasing hte clutch should take about 1 full second.
Think about it realistically when you start going, 3 seconds is a long time to be letting out that clutch. Should be like 1, 1.5 tops.
Yes, you are riding the clutch incredibly bad.
If you can say "1 mississippi, 2 mississippi, 3 mississipp-" or "one one thousand, two one thousand, three one thousand" (3 actual counted seconds) and the clutch still isn't out, you are riding the clutch, hard.
Releasing hte clutch should take about 1 full second.
Think about it realistically when you start going, 3 seconds is a long time to be letting out that clutch. Should be like 1, 1.5 tops.
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Re: (Syndacate)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I might sound like a dick but I don't care.
Yes, you are riding the clutch incredibly bad.
If you can say "1 mississippi, 2 mississippi, 3 mississipp-" or "one one thousand, two one thousand, three one thousand" (3 actual counted seconds) and the clutch still isn't out, you are riding the clutch, hard.
Releasing hte clutch should take about 1 full second.
Think about it realistically when you start going, 3 seconds is a long time to be letting out that clutch. Should be like 1, 1.5 tops. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Remember its a performance clutch.
Yes, you are riding the clutch incredibly bad.
If you can say "1 mississippi, 2 mississippi, 3 mississipp-" or "one one thousand, two one thousand, three one thousand" (3 actual counted seconds) and the clutch still isn't out, you are riding the clutch, hard.
Releasing hte clutch should take about 1 full second.
Think about it realistically when you start going, 3 seconds is a long time to be letting out that clutch. Should be like 1, 1.5 tops. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Remember its a performance clutch.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cambopheonix56 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Remember its a performance clutch.</TD></TR></TABLE>
what do you mean?
Remember its a performance clutch.</TD></TR></TABLE>
what do you mean?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cambopheonix56 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Remember its a performance clutch.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't know, he can do what he wants.
What classifies as a "performance" clutch? I use ACT, all of them make it so you are able to release the clutch even faster than stock w/o bucking or spinning the wheels. I don't have much knowledge of other clutches...but what exactly is classified as a "performance clutch?"
I don't know, he can do what he wants.
What classifies as a "performance" clutch? I use ACT, all of them make it so you are able to release the clutch even faster than stock w/o bucking or spinning the wheels. I don't have much knowledge of other clutches...but what exactly is classified as a "performance clutch?"
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Picture this:
You're in a viper and just cruising 10mph and some girls start crossing the street looking at you. You then press the brakes and clutch and give it a little rev but not in neutral,just by using the clutch.You rev up to 4,500rpm just to show off,does that kind of thing wear the clutch since youre going from nearly 1k to that real fast?By my understanding of how a clutch works,id say its wearing it.
You're in a viper and just cruising 10mph and some girls start crossing the street looking at you. You then press the brakes and clutch and give it a little rev but not in neutral,just by using the clutch.You rev up to 4,500rpm just to show off,does that kind of thing wear the clutch since youre going from nearly 1k to that real fast?By my understanding of how a clutch works,id say its wearing it.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't know, he can do what he wants.
What classifies as a "performance" clutch? I use ACT, all of them make it so you are able to release the clutch even faster than stock w/o bucking or spinning the wheels. I don't have much knowledge of other clutches...but what exactly is classified as a "performance clutch?"</TD></TR></TABLE>
Stage 1 competition. So its gonna grip more then stock, however, you probably are right about the 3 second thing.
What classifies as a "performance" clutch? I use ACT, all of them make it so you are able to release the clutch even faster than stock w/o bucking or spinning the wheels. I don't have much knowledge of other clutches...but what exactly is classified as a "performance clutch?"</TD></TR></TABLE>
Stage 1 competition. So its gonna grip more then stock, however, you probably are right about the 3 second thing.
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Re: (cambopheonix56)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cambopheonix56 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Stage 1 competition. So its gonna grip more then stock, however, you probably are right about the 3 second thing. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, that's how the ACT stage 1's are, they grip quicker...and you can let out the clutch even quicker than you do w/ a stock clutch w/o spinning or bogging.... If you're riding ANY clutch for 3 seconds to start, you aren't riding it, you are ******* the hell out of it.
Stock release for me is about .8-1.5 seconds - without bucking, without spinning. It's even better with an ACT clutch - I'm 18, almost 19, I obviously can't say I'm an "expert driver" or anything of the sort. So my inexperience is just proof about how you should be releasing the clutch.
Yeah, that's how the ACT stage 1's are, they grip quicker...and you can let out the clutch even quicker than you do w/ a stock clutch w/o spinning or bogging.... If you're riding ANY clutch for 3 seconds to start, you aren't riding it, you are ******* the hell out of it.
Stock release for me is about .8-1.5 seconds - without bucking, without spinning. It's even better with an ACT clutch - I'm 18, almost 19, I obviously can't say I'm an "expert driver" or anything of the sort. So my inexperience is just proof about how you should be releasing the clutch.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Felliph3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What is bogging?ive seen and heard but whats the definition for it?Letting the clutch out so quick that the car turns off?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No ........ that's called stalling.
Bogging is when the motor feels like it's bogged down.
No ........ that's called stalling.
Bogging is when the motor feels like it's bogged down.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Felliph3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What is bogging?ive seen and heard but whats the definition for it?Letting the clutch out so quick that the car turns off?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No that's called stalling...
Bogging out is when you are letting out the clutch and not giving it enough (or any) gas and it "jerks" or "bucks" from the lack of fuel - it does it a few times - then will stall out.
You have a Honda, just let out the clutch like you would be giving it gas, it'll jump a few times before stalling...
Some people bog out (or the RPM's get really low b/c it's about to stall out (can't sustain itself)) and you can feel the car shake (b/c of low RPM's) when they start out..that's bogging...
Happens in regular starts as well as drag, is bad for your car in both situations.
No that's called stalling...
Bogging out is when you are letting out the clutch and not giving it enough (or any) gas and it "jerks" or "bucks" from the lack of fuel - it does it a few times - then will stall out.
You have a Honda, just let out the clutch like you would be giving it gas, it'll jump a few times before stalling...
Some people bog out (or the RPM's get really low b/c it's about to stall out (can't sustain itself)) and you can feel the car shake (b/c of low RPM's) when they start out..that's bogging...
Happens in regular starts as well as drag, is bad for your car in both situations.
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listen to theese guys....you RIDE the clutch when you give it gas while the clutch is HALF engaged, dont do it for more then 1 second (should take you ess to engage the clutch)
listen to theese guys....you RIDE the clutch when you give it gas while the clutch is HALF engaged, dont do it for more then 1 second (should take you ess to engage the clutch)
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Thats not what i meant,
Vipers have power so in half a second it can rev to 4000,but it is still going from 1k to 4k quickly,does it not wear because its too quick for heat and friction to take a toll or does it in fact wear it a little bit?
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Vipers have power so in half a second it can rev to 4000,but it is still going from 1k to 4k quickly,does it not wear because its too quick for heat and friction to take a toll or does it in fact wear it a little bit?
Modified by Felliph3 at 10:33 PM 10/15/2006
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Felliph3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats not what i meant,
Vipers have power so in half a second it can rev to 4000,but it is still going from 1k to 4k quickly,does it not wear because its too quick for heat and friction to take a toll or does it in fact wear it a little bit?
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Read a book.
When the clutch is in the drivetrain is disengaged, you can rev it up and down all day and not hurt the clutch in the least bit - it's not even touching anything when u clutch it....(or in neutral)
The clutch in a Viper is a lot stronger than the clutch in a civic. It's the same concept is an aftermarket clutch. It grips stronger so it doesn't spin. You're entirely comparing apples to oranges comparing a viper to a honda. You don't have to rev it up to 3 or 4k to let out the clutch like u do a Honda, in a Viper u can just let out the clutch and ull be rollin w/o giving it any gas....
The idea is to engage the clutch is so it's not spinning AT ALL (this happens when teh clutch is all the way out). So when ti's not spinning against the pressure plate there's no friction created, no wear. It's the people like u that hold it down too long that create the friction and wear it down...
All the way in = no harm
All the way out = no harm
Half in and moving (or in gear) = wear on the clutch..
Vipers have power so in half a second it can rev to 4000,but it is still going from 1k to 4k quickly,does it not wear because its too quick for heat and friction to take a toll or does it in fact wear it a little bit?
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Modified by Felliph3 at 10:34 PM 10/15/2006</TD></TR></TABLE>
Read a book.
When the clutch is in the drivetrain is disengaged, you can rev it up and down all day and not hurt the clutch in the least bit - it's not even touching anything when u clutch it....(or in neutral)
The clutch in a Viper is a lot stronger than the clutch in a civic. It's the same concept is an aftermarket clutch. It grips stronger so it doesn't spin. You're entirely comparing apples to oranges comparing a viper to a honda. You don't have to rev it up to 3 or 4k to let out the clutch like u do a Honda, in a Viper u can just let out the clutch and ull be rollin w/o giving it any gas....
The idea is to engage the clutch is so it's not spinning AT ALL (this happens when teh clutch is all the way out). So when ti's not spinning against the pressure plate there's no friction created, no wear. It's the people like u that hold it down too long that create the friction and wear it down...
All the way in = no harm
All the way out = no harm
Half in and moving (or in gear) = wear on the clutch..