MotoGP Season Finale Discussion *SPOILER WARNING*
.... Pedrosa wrecked and hit Hayden making him highside and the bike was beyond being able to run at that point.... Rossi didn't win the race but is pretty much garunteed the title at this point. It's mathematically possible for Hayden to win but highly doubtful he will...
heh looks like slowb16si and I posted at about the same time. I took a lil time to add in the final results... oh well. sry for the dbl post
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yeah I was pissed too. After Stoner went out and took Gibernau with him I became worried that Pedrosa may do the same since they both have lowsided a bit and Pedrosa is wreckless... I threw my hat, scared my dog away, my brother thought something went seriously wrong and asked me what happened. heh
In the meantime Elias helped out from beating Rossi and rode an incredible race. Everyone pretty much assumed Rossi was gonna win after Hayden got wrecked out
In the meantime Elias helped out from beating Rossi and rode an incredible race. Everyone pretty much assumed Rossi was gonna win after Hayden got wrecked out
I know my mom was in the kitchen and soon as it happened I dropped the F bomb and jumped up like a little kid yelling and screaming, she told me to leave the house.
Well it was a good race towards the end, I was in a bad mood the whole race though. Even though I think Rossi has it in the bag, I really hope 2 weeks from now is the best race of the year
Damn.. I was thinking how Rossi had such low straight speeds during testing. I guess it's because of the slower acceleration vs the Hondas. Toni proved it by grabbing the tarmac outta the last corner.
As for Pedrosa.. from the beginning of the season, when everyone was hating on him, I said that I liked him. Well.. now.. I LOVE him!!!! wooHOOOO!!!!!
Sorry Nicky. I love you but this isn't your year. You know deep down that you don't want to take a championship without winning races.
As for Pedrosa.. from the beginning of the season, when everyone was hating on him, I said that I liked him. Well.. now.. I LOVE him!!!! wooHOOOO!!!!!
Sorry Nicky. I love you but this isn't your year. You know deep down that you don't want to take a championship without winning races.
http://www.crash.net/news_view...0.htm
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Dani Pedrosa committed motor racing's most cardinal sin at Estoril on Sunday when he took out world championship leading team-mate Nicky Hayden in a moment of madness that could cost the American the 2006 MotoGP crown.
Hayden started the penultimate event of the season with a 12-point lead over reigning five-times champion Valentino Rossi, who converted pole position into an early race lead - while his Camel Yamaha team-mate Colin Edwards dutifully held station in second.
By contrast, there was no such co-operation between Repsol Honda team-mates Pedrosa and Hayden - the cited reason being that fifth in the championship Pedrosa still had a slim mathematical chance of the title - but team orders is one thing, team destruction another.
Yet, exactly one lap after Hayden had squeezed inside Pedrosa for third, and with the 28 lap race less than seven-minutes old, the Spaniard - in a moment of utter madness - gambled Hayden and Honda's entire world championship lead on an inexcusably optimistic attempt to retake the position.
The 2006 rookie of the year - previously renowned for his cool head - appeared to forget who pays his wages as he tried to make the panicky pass stick but, as Hayden turned in to the left hander, Dani already had nowhere to go, lost his front wheel and wiped them both out.
Hayden, who has finished every other race this season, desperately tried to rejoin, but the damage to his RCV was too great and the furious American was left punching the ground amidst screams of anger and abuse directed at Dani... but most would probably have punched Pedrosa, whose fumbled pass was one of the most costly team-mate-on-team-mate mistakes ever seen in world championship motorcycle racing.
"I don't know what to say really - it just hurts," said a stunned Hayden. "I don't expect Dani to pull over and let me by but I definitely didn't expect him to do that. We're professionals and Dani did come to my motorhome and talk to me afterwards and we shook hands."
"What can I say? I made a mistake and I'm really sorry," offered Pedrosa. "It's the first time I've hit another rider in my career - it's never happened before in practice or racing in six years and it's happened at the worst moment that I could do it. Obviously I'm very unhappy and Nicky is not happy and I just want to apologise because I made a mistake. I said sorry to Nicky and I can understand that he is very upset – I wish I could change it. I didn't want to pass him at that moment. I braked and my rear wheel came off the ground and then it touched the ground again, I got a little more speed. I couldn't stop the bike and there was nowhere to go. I have a fracture in my little finger but we have time for it to be ok for Valencia."
"What can I say? I made a mistake and I'm really sorry," offered Pedrosa. "It's the first time I've hit another rider in my career - it's never happened before in practice or racing in six years and it's happened at the worst moment that I could do it. Obviously I'm very unhappy and Nicky is not happy and I just want to apologise because I made a mistake. I said sorry to Nicky and I can understand that he is very upset – I wish I could change it. I didn't want to pass him at that moment. I braked and my rear wheel came off the ground and then it touched the ground again, I got a little more speed. I couldn't stop the bike and there was nowhere to go. I have a fracture in my little finger but we have time for it to be ok for Valencia."
The only 'good' news for Hayden, Pedrosa and Honda is that Toni Elias deprived Rossi of the full 25 points on offer at Estoril - meaning that the Italian will take an eight, instead of 13-point, championship lead into the Valencia showdown in two week's time.
That is still enough to allow Rossi to finish second and take the title, but if Hayden wins with another rider - such as Pedrosa - third, then Nicky and Honda could sensationally ****** the crown.
"I've proved this weekend that I wasn't going to give up without a fight and even now I believe I'm pretty strong," insisted Nicky. "This was not one of my best tracks and I've come here and gone quick - I was fastest in one session, got on the front row and had a good race pace. I need Dani's help now because anything could happen in Valencia, so I hope his hand's ok. I told him there's a way to make it up to me and that's if we run one-two in Valencia then the championship's still possible."
Hayden falling at a crowded first corner, or suffering a mechanical failure, would have been plain bad luck and all a part of racing - but losing a world championship lead because of a team-mate's suicidal attack was plain stupidity and may cause Honda to review the wording of its 'no teams orders' rule. Certainly, it appears that Pedrosa will now have to help Hayden at Valencia.
"This extraordinary season is not over yet. Obviously our target for the next race at Valencia is for Nicky to win and for Dani to finish second which would give Nicky the riders' championship title," confirmed team manager Makoto Tanaka.
Hayden and Pedrosa have already signed to spend the 2007 season as team-mates.</TD></TR></TABLE>
In other news Gibernau broke his hand and damaged his collarbone that he broke earlier in the year (not gonna paste this whole story)
http://www.crash.net/news_view...4.htm
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Dani Pedrosa committed motor racing's most cardinal sin at Estoril on Sunday when he took out world championship leading team-mate Nicky Hayden in a moment of madness that could cost the American the 2006 MotoGP crown.
Hayden started the penultimate event of the season with a 12-point lead over reigning five-times champion Valentino Rossi, who converted pole position into an early race lead - while his Camel Yamaha team-mate Colin Edwards dutifully held station in second.
By contrast, there was no such co-operation between Repsol Honda team-mates Pedrosa and Hayden - the cited reason being that fifth in the championship Pedrosa still had a slim mathematical chance of the title - but team orders is one thing, team destruction another.
Yet, exactly one lap after Hayden had squeezed inside Pedrosa for third, and with the 28 lap race less than seven-minutes old, the Spaniard - in a moment of utter madness - gambled Hayden and Honda's entire world championship lead on an inexcusably optimistic attempt to retake the position.
The 2006 rookie of the year - previously renowned for his cool head - appeared to forget who pays his wages as he tried to make the panicky pass stick but, as Hayden turned in to the left hander, Dani already had nowhere to go, lost his front wheel and wiped them both out.
Hayden, who has finished every other race this season, desperately tried to rejoin, but the damage to his RCV was too great and the furious American was left punching the ground amidst screams of anger and abuse directed at Dani... but most would probably have punched Pedrosa, whose fumbled pass was one of the most costly team-mate-on-team-mate mistakes ever seen in world championship motorcycle racing.
"I don't know what to say really - it just hurts," said a stunned Hayden. "I don't expect Dani to pull over and let me by but I definitely didn't expect him to do that. We're professionals and Dani did come to my motorhome and talk to me afterwards and we shook hands."
"What can I say? I made a mistake and I'm really sorry," offered Pedrosa. "It's the first time I've hit another rider in my career - it's never happened before in practice or racing in six years and it's happened at the worst moment that I could do it. Obviously I'm very unhappy and Nicky is not happy and I just want to apologise because I made a mistake. I said sorry to Nicky and I can understand that he is very upset – I wish I could change it. I didn't want to pass him at that moment. I braked and my rear wheel came off the ground and then it touched the ground again, I got a little more speed. I couldn't stop the bike and there was nowhere to go. I have a fracture in my little finger but we have time for it to be ok for Valencia."
"What can I say? I made a mistake and I'm really sorry," offered Pedrosa. "It's the first time I've hit another rider in my career - it's never happened before in practice or racing in six years and it's happened at the worst moment that I could do it. Obviously I'm very unhappy and Nicky is not happy and I just want to apologise because I made a mistake. I said sorry to Nicky and I can understand that he is very upset – I wish I could change it. I didn't want to pass him at that moment. I braked and my rear wheel came off the ground and then it touched the ground again, I got a little more speed. I couldn't stop the bike and there was nowhere to go. I have a fracture in my little finger but we have time for it to be ok for Valencia."
The only 'good' news for Hayden, Pedrosa and Honda is that Toni Elias deprived Rossi of the full 25 points on offer at Estoril - meaning that the Italian will take an eight, instead of 13-point, championship lead into the Valencia showdown in two week's time.
That is still enough to allow Rossi to finish second and take the title, but if Hayden wins with another rider - such as Pedrosa - third, then Nicky and Honda could sensationally ****** the crown.
"I've proved this weekend that I wasn't going to give up without a fight and even now I believe I'm pretty strong," insisted Nicky. "This was not one of my best tracks and I've come here and gone quick - I was fastest in one session, got on the front row and had a good race pace. I need Dani's help now because anything could happen in Valencia, so I hope his hand's ok. I told him there's a way to make it up to me and that's if we run one-two in Valencia then the championship's still possible."
Hayden falling at a crowded first corner, or suffering a mechanical failure, would have been plain bad luck and all a part of racing - but losing a world championship lead because of a team-mate's suicidal attack was plain stupidity and may cause Honda to review the wording of its 'no teams orders' rule. Certainly, it appears that Pedrosa will now have to help Hayden at Valencia.
"This extraordinary season is not over yet. Obviously our target for the next race at Valencia is for Nicky to win and for Dani to finish second which would give Nicky the riders' championship title," confirmed team manager Makoto Tanaka.
Hayden and Pedrosa have already signed to spend the 2007 season as team-mates.</TD></TR></TABLE>
In other news Gibernau broke his hand and damaged his collarbone that he broke earlier in the year (not gonna paste this whole story)
http://www.crash.net/news_view...4.htm
I think Dani boy actually clipped the curb because his forks took a huge compression stroke right before he went down. Sucks for you Nicky fans but I didn't want to see him take the title this season anyway, I want too see him work for it.
What an amazing race.
I was so pissed when Pedrosa knocked Hayden out, like everyone else...and wow those last few laps where K.R Jr. and Rossi and Elias were going back and forth in first place it was incredible!
to Elias for the .002 second win
I was so pissed when Pedrosa knocked Hayden out, like everyone else...and wow those last few laps where K.R Jr. and Rossi and Elias were going back and forth in first place it was incredible!
to Elias for the .002 second win
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RebornGSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think Dani boy actually clipped the curb because his forks took a huge compression stroke right before he went down. Sucks for you Nicky fans but I didn't want to see him take the title this season anyway, I want too see him work for it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
uh what? explain to me how he "didn't work for it" cause that's total bullshit. He has only had this DNF and had a long run of consistently high finishes as well as podium finishes.
uh what? explain to me how he "didn't work for it" cause that's total bullshit. He has only had this DNF and had a long run of consistently high finishes as well as podium finishes.
I wouldn't say he didnt work for it, but who deserves it the most, Rossi. Rossi is the best rider out there but I would have loved to see nicky take it. Rossi has taken 5 first places this season 4 second places, and he didn't even place in 3 of the races. Nicky had a good season, but most of the races just floated through them and wasn't consistant.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SlowB16si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wouldn't say he didnt work for it, but who deserves it the most, Rossi. Rossi is the best rider out there but I would have loved to see nicky take it. Rossi has taken 5 first places this season 4 second places, and he didn't even place in 3 of the races. Nicky had a good season, but most of the races just floated through them and wasn't consistant.</TD></TR></TABLE>
being the best rider doesn't mean you deserve it. A championship is won by your team and yeah the bad luck sucks but if Hayden had won even Rossi would say he deserved it I find it odd that most MotoGP fans obsess about Rossi and if he doesn't win he deserved it and was cheated out of it cause he's the best rider. Noone will ever mention that in other forms of racing when misfortune might cost someone the race or championship.
being the best rider doesn't mean you deserve it. A championship is won by your team and yeah the bad luck sucks but if Hayden had won even Rossi would say he deserved it I find it odd that most MotoGP fans obsess about Rossi and if he doesn't win he deserved it and was cheated out of it cause he's the best rider. Noone will ever mention that in other forms of racing when misfortune might cost someone the race or championship.
as a team mate - and not having a chance at the championship, pedrosa should have protected hayden like what edwards was doing. he was keeping people back as much as possible.
what happened to hayden sucked hard core but this is racing - just like stoner did to gibernau
i do not see hayden winning, but then again i did not think he would as much as i would have liked him to
what happened to hayden sucked hard core but this is racing - just like stoner did to gibernau
i do not see hayden winning, but then again i did not think he would as much as i would have liked him to
whoa whoa whoa wait... Hayden is second place overall with even a slight possibility that he could win the MotoGP title? Where was i the last couple of years. I really haven't paid attention for a while but is that true?? I remember when he was down 10th place. What happened???




