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Old May 3, 2002 | 07:00 PM
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Old May 3, 2002 | 07:02 PM
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if you want a ultra stiff spring go with kawasaki. I took my old car to 11,000 rpms before. I think the toda's can hadle upwards of 9500rpms, with stock retainers.

and honestlyt why would you want to go any higher than the pwerband of the cam
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Old May 3, 2002 | 07:03 PM
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if you want a ultra stiff spring go with kawasaki. I took my old car to 11,000 rpms before. I think the toda's can hadle upwards of 9500rpms, with stock retainers.

and honestlyt why would you want to go any higher than the pwerband of the cam
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Old May 3, 2002 | 11:03 PM
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When I had the PowerFC it once read a peak-hold number of 9800rpm ...had the rev limiter set a little too high that day Toda valve springs, toda "B" cams, and Portflow Ti retainers.
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Old May 4, 2002 | 05:30 AM
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Portflow retainers, Toda Springs and some valve guides and you can go to 10,000...but then again even the Spec C's only make power to about 9,600rpm.

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Old May 4, 2002 | 05:32 AM
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Lauging at my previous statement..."only make power to about 9600rpm like its no big deal"

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Old May 4, 2002 | 07:10 AM
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10,000 rpm if you do it right, ask sgT
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Old May 4, 2002 | 09:16 AM
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ferrea valve springs can handle some serious rpm
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Old May 4, 2002 | 05:57 PM
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I have spec C's and I don't plan on reving to 10,000. I just want to know what toda valve spring are design to handle, and i have portflow titanium retainers by the way............
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Old May 4, 2002 | 06:02 PM
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I have spec C's and I don't plan on reving to 10,000. I just want to know what toda valve spring are design to handle, and i have portflow titanium retainers by the way............
That's my set-up. Took it to 9250 rpm many, many times. BTW, my timing belt broke (after 18,000 miles, not 15,000 miles like I stated before) so I'd suggest buying a Power Enterprises belt Worth the piece of mind.
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Old May 4, 2002 | 06:53 PM
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I have used Eibach valve springs on my last few motors. Endyn sells them and says they are rated at 10,000RPMs at 13mm of lift. I have them with Ferrea ti retainers and I've run to 9,800 a few times. Endyn uses them on every motor they build.
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Old May 4, 2002 | 06:56 PM
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Endyn uses them on every motor they build.
Then maybe they are the same ones Larry sold me that collapsed on me.
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Old May 4, 2002 | 07:00 PM
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i thought endyn used the web valvetrain kits? was the ones that collapsed on you the ones that have smaller diameter springs/retainers/seats?
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Old May 4, 2002 | 07:04 PM
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smaller they were, yes
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Old May 4, 2002 | 07:12 PM
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oh damn, that sucks. yea, those are web kits, which part failed? what cams were you running? and how many rpm? thanks.
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Old May 4, 2002 | 08:01 PM
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toda spec C, no high rpm as the motor was being broken in, at most 6-7000rpm.
all of the outer springs broke into pieces.
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i revved my b's with the toda valve train with the je 12:5:1 compression pistons to 9500 consistantly. oh yea i also rigged my oil pump to push out more pressure than the stock setting so its safer.
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Old May 4, 2002 | 08:02 PM
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more pressure doesnt mean safer, more pressure just means more force to blow seals
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well i think its safer with the set-up i got.
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Old May 4, 2002 | 08:10 PM
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and what you dont know cant hurt you right?
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Old May 5, 2002 | 05:16 PM
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I have spec-C cams with Toda valve springs and my rev limit is 10,000. I have seen 10,500 on the datalog many times due to the soft rpm limit. In fact, when I burn out, it shows 10,500rpm for around 4-5 seconds.

My opinion is that Toda valve springs are probably the best you can get for a B series engine. Not many companies use the more expensive egg shaped spring, and Toda do it for a reason.

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