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After a full day of trying to get this car to start I decided I better double check my timing again so I pulled the valve cover and sure enough the cams were slightly pointed towards each other. 1 tooth off.

The car wasn't starting so this must have been why?

Could this have caused any damage?


Modified by MadCityLude at 1:24 PM 10/12/2006

 

nope, h series are clearance motors, unless in v-tech (h22) so nothing should be hurt.

 

are you sure

 

well thats somewhat of a debate.

i've heard that said many many times (even from really knowledgable guys)

but it seems to me when ppl have timing belts break, it usually messes some stuff up

several cases have been like that (me personally as well on a h23)

do a compression check

 

they are interference as far as i know

 

Well, the engine hasn't ran with the tooth off, only turned over. Does that really matter?

 

i ran with 1 tooth off for 6 month, and now its fine that its lined

 

mine wouldn't start. Would being one tooth off stop it from starting?

 

You ran with one tooth off for 6th months the car must have been a pooch.

i dont think being a tooth off would cause the motor not to run. i was one tooth of in my D15 in my '87 rex and it started but ran like sh*t. (oh yeah, old school). I would check the basics first fuel, spark, compression, etc.

 

No, It shouldnt stop it from starting at all because like i said, I drove mine for about 6 months without realizing that it was off...

 

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wow you have no idea what youre talking about....

derek, the motor will be fine, just put it all back together and crank her up

 

I thought that guy sounded like he was smoking something! I knew honda engines were interference

 

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3 posts, and you can't even get that right!

But no, being a tooth off will not prevent your motor from starting. Did you switch to an a1 external coil yet?

 

1 tooth isn't going to cause much, if any damage. and yeah, if you timing is off enough, b/c even tho your engine isnt running, when its cranking, the internal parts are still moving. you should be fine Derek

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Finest &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">3 posts, and you can't even get that right!

But no, being a tooth off will not prevent your motor from starting. Did you switch to an a1 external coil yet? </TD></TR></TABLE>

honestly i think you're right man, 1 tooth shouldn't throw things off that bad....

 

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honestly i think you're right man, 1 tooth shouldn't throw things off that bad....</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, wasn't Derek using an a4 coil? would that cause it to not start? I dont know the differences in the coil. and if the coil wasnt working, would he still get spark. b/c in a previous thread, he said he was getting spark to all 4 plugs

 

If he is getting spark, he's getting all the spark he needs, I doubt a weak spark is the problem here, in fact I don't think that the ignition is the problem.

Spark, fuel, compression...thats about all there is to it....double check them all, as well as your grounds....

 

well, I switched coils now anyway to my blaster SS I was using in my previous setup. Once I get the timing back together in a couple hours I am going to try and fire it up again. I have everything apart now, just need to get it back together now. Looks like my crank may have been off 1 tooth also. I put it all together last night and I guess I hurried to much and it was a little dark so yea. I screwed up. I dicovered the H22a4 coil is the same as 93-96? accords and the H22a1 is the same as all 4th gen and the 91-92 accord.

It was giving me spark though.

 

Wow Derek...take your time with that stuff...be careful...i hope you didn't mess anything up having the crank off a tooth like that...

good luck with it

 

well if he is getting spark, and hopefully everything is mechanically correct (besides being one tooth off ). i suspect a fuel issue?

 

Another question?

I am using the H22a4 MAP sensor. Could that cause me problems?

 

i wouldnt think so from what ive seen all honda MAP sensors use the same voltage ranges, but i could be wrong.

 

they do, honda maps are interchangeable

 

what about the compression derek? have you checked it? what does it sound like when you are cranking it? and yes, all Honda MAP sensors are interchangeable I do believe.

 

I did a compression check before I ever removed any timing components to ensure the engine was good before I messed with anything. The numbers were low 150 accross the board.
After I dumped a half cap of oil in each cylinder and cranking it for a while they jumped to about 180.

I am loading pics of my timing so someone could please verify this is correct.

It always looks wrong to me. For some reason. But if I move anything a gear it will be way off. Should everything line up PERFECT? This same thing happend last time I did timing and I was concernd they weren't right.

They never seem to be perfect.