I have two options right now. I have a dohc zc in my crx and I want to turbo it. I found two options. Let me know what i should go with for best bang for my buck value. I want to know if its worth it for me to spend the extra 250 for the second kit? or just have fun with the first kit? Its a daily driver and i just want to have fun. I dont need anything rediculous. Big difference between the two kits or what?

Option #1

Greddy Turbo setup-

All piping (from 92+ civic)
intake
Manifold
turbo
computer
oil lines
For $450

Option #2

complete set up for d-series
14b turbo works mint
HF manifold and flange
2 intercoolers (one may need to be pressure tested)
Blitz JDM B.O.V.
DSM bluetop 450cc injectors
B&M FPR
charge piping
air fuel, oil pressure and boost gauges in pods

For $700

 

how about option #3.

450cc DSM injectors
turboedit
t3 manifold+downpipe
t3 super 60
ebay intercooler
ebay BOV
custom piping
stealthmode oil lines

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wfocrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how about option #3.

450cc DSM injectors
turboedit
t3 manifold+downpipe
t3 super 60
ebay intercooler
ebay BOV
custom piping
stealthmode oil lines</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

How much would that run me?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wfocrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how about option #3.

450cc DSM injectors turboedit Free + chipped ecu and burner t3 manifold+downpipe
t3 super 60
ebay intercooler
ebay BOV
custom piping
stealthmode oil lines</TD></TR></TABLE>




Best option yet

Edit BUY A WIDEBAND WHAT EVER YOU DO!

 

option 3 is the one i would choose

 

i would go with option 2, cause ur gonna end up speding the difference on the things u really need to improve your car u might as well just buy them now

 

Alright, well i can get option #2 with a zdyne for $1100. Is that worth it? Or is option 3 better? Is it that much better and would it work out to be more or less money than 1100? Thanks again. IM just looking for a cheap simple kit with good outcome.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Captain Anarchy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Alright, well i can get option #2 with a zdyne for $1100. Is that worth it? Or is option 3 better? Is it that much better and would it work out to be more or less money than 1100? Thanks again. IM just looking for a cheap simple kit with good outcome.</TD></TR></TABLE>

are u retard? expletive ZDYNE its the same **** as turbo edit but 950 dollars more

get a t3 you will thank me later

 

dude more bang dor your buck with turbos your going to pay for what you get and in any stock honda motor after you boost it the only last for oh say 2000 miles and thats if your nice the stock pistons cant handdle the heat the rings are brittle with my b26 i ran a turbonetics kit with a t3/t4 super 70 with 3 in ex. and well it will run fine but you can use any turbo in any car its all about fuel when you run lean and an un tuned honda will do alot under boost its not worth a fee bucks here and there buy yourself a decent kit and chrome tuning check it out its nice same features as hondata but way cheaper or go with hondata and get the wide band o2 like i said i spent 12000 on my motor tuning and turbo kit but im also makin 900 to the wheels and if who ever reads this and dont belive me come find out ill take you for a rid i had to put plastic down for my lady she came all over my **** lol anys man hit me up

 

are u retard? expletive ZDYNE its the same **** as turbo edit but 950 dollars more

get a t3 you will thank me later

What? lol explain, i have no idea what you mean.

 

Your going to want to upgrade anything you buy later....get the best that you can afford and do it right the first time.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ten second crx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dude more bang dor your buck with turbos your going to pay for what you get and in any stock honda motor after you boost it the only last for oh say 2000 miles and thats if your nice the stock pistons cant handdle the heat the rings are brittle with my b26 i ran a turbonetics kit with a t3/t4 super 70 with 3 in ex. and well it will run fine but you can use any turbo in any car its all about fuel when you run lean and an un tuned honda will do alot under boost its not worth a fee bucks here and there buy yourself a decent kit and chrome tuning check it out its nice same features as hondata but way cheaper or go with hondata and get the wide band o2 like i said i spent 12000 on my motor tuning and turbo kit but im also makin 900 to the wheels and if who ever reads this and dont belive me come find out ill take you for a rid i had to put plastic down for my lady she came all over my **** lol anys man hit me up </TD></TR></TABLE>


Please tell me this entire response was a joke.

 

option #2 good luck

 

i say 2 also. and 900 to the wheels? come on

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ten second crx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dude more bang dor your buck with turbos your going to pay for what you get and in any stock honda motor after you boost it the only last for oh say 2000 miles </TD></TR></TABLE>

You obviously dont know **** so take your bs and go home. And please stop using run on sentences. Typical 17 year olds, watch fast and furious and think they are turbo experts

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Captain Anarchy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are u retard? expletive ZDYNE its the same **** as turbo edit but 950 dollars more

get a t3 you will thank me later

What? lol explain, i have no idea what you mean.</TD></TR></TABLE>

http://www.pgmfi.org go there. Turbo edit is a rom editor for obd0 ecu (lets your pm6 run boost and able you to edit your own fuel maps and timing curves

 

So after some reading, i kind of understand what your saying. I can pretty much do all the same **** I would with a zdyne, but it would be a hell of a lot cheaper and id just have to do a bit of my own work? The only thing i like about the SECU from zdyne is that i can hook it up directly to my laptop when the engine is running and set all of the timing and any other adjustments id like to make on the spot. Changing with turbo edit seems a bit more of a hassle until i found the perfect set up. Correct me if im wrong about anything here, im just trying to learn everything as I go and dont want any untrue information. Im just trying to do the best I can with the money I have.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Captain Anarchy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So after some reading, i kind of understand what your saying. I can pretty much do all the same **** I would with a zdyne, but it would be a hell of a lot cheaper and id just have to do a bit of my own work? The only thing i like about the SECU from zdyne is that i can hook it up directly to my laptop when the engine is running and set all of the timing and any other adjustments id like to make on the spot. Changing with turbo edit seems a bit more of a hassle until i found the perfect set up. Correct me if im wrong about anything here, im just trying to learn everything as I go and dont want any untrue information. Im just trying to do the best I can with the money I have.</TD></TR></TABLE>

pretty much, if you want better diy tuning option i would suggest crome, its obd1 based so you need to do a coversion and get a obd1 ecu, but in the end of the day alot more option and better tuning maps.

Basically all u need is a burner (60 bucks) and your chipped ecu.

Im running crome on my p28 for my boosted b16a and i havent looked back since going obd1

 

You can use Turbo edit and make it the same as Zdyne but you will have to spend a little money but not nearly as mucas the zdyne will cost you...you can have your chipped ecu set-up for datalogging so you can monitor you engine from a laptop just like the zdyne and if you don't feel like having to burn chips you can get a moates osterich (sp?) which allows you to never have to burn a chip again, the ostrich stores your settings kind of like a little hard drive and you can change them while the car is running with a laptop...

Honestly $700 for a turbo kit based on the HF mani and adapter is a little much in my opinion:

14b turbo works mint $150 at most
HF manifold and flange $70
2 intercoolers (one may need to be pressure tested) Only need one and Ebay front mounts are around $100 shipped

Blitz JDM B.O.V. I don't know what makes it JDM? $70?
DSM bluetop 450cc injectors $50 shipped all day long
B&M FPR not needed at all
charge piping depending what it is made out of and if it is made to fit your car $100
air fuel, oil pressure and boost gauges in pods $60 on ebay?

I mean thats maybe 600 if everything is in perfect condition but I think you can peice a kit together for a lot less

14b is a small turbo and if you ever want to upgrade you are going to have to spend a lot, if you start off with a T3 you will have a lot more options

Feel free to ask any more questions I'd rather help you and and I'm sure Boosted Chemist would also so you don't get caught up in these intraweb miths and missconceptions...

 

Most of you reading the response posted by "ten second crx" probably did not get to the last part of the post. Well, here it is again, "who ever reads this and dont belive me come find out ill take you for a rid i had to put plastic down for my lady she came all over my **** lol anys man hit me up". This is one of the reasons why I like H-T - funny people!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by andrey320 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Most of you reading the response posted by "ten second crx" probably did not get to the last part of the post. Well, here it is again, "who ever reads this and dont belive me come find out ill take you for a rid i had to put plastic down for my lady she came all over my **** lol anys man hit me up". This is one of the reasons why I like H-T - funny people!
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Yea i'd like to see his 900whp CRX since it seems all his post are about how do i fix this code and how his built B16 doesn't run properly...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ten second crx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> like i said i spent 12000 on my motor tuning and turbo kit but im also makin 900 to the wheels and if who ever reads this and dont belive me come find out ill take you for a rid i had to put plastic down for my lady she came all over my **** lol anys man hit me up </TD></TR></TABLE> Can you post up a build list? Wow. How about a dyno sheet? Or even a time slip!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Loserkidwac &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yea i'd like to see his 900whp CRX since it seems all his post are about how do i fix this code and how his built B16 doesn't run properly... </TD></TR></TABLE>

lol so true. Turbo myth busters

 

The greddy kit seems way to cheap. I would check the wastegate since the diaphram on those seem to enjoy failing. I've peronally seen 3 failures 2 on B18s and one on an H22. When I went to the only shop on the Island(hawaii) that is certified to rebuild turbos they told me he sees a lot of greddy wastegates fail. He also said Turbonetics some times don't balance the turbos there was an entire shelf about 15-20 turbos all had eaten up wheels. Not saying turbonetics sucks but that was enough to make me not want one.
A lot of my friends have run the 14b with the adapter plate, hf manifold even my girlfriends EF has a hf mani, adapter plate and a small IHI RHB5 it was converted to obd1 and tuned on crome. I drive it for auto cross it pulls pretty hard, the 14b would pull a lot harder.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted Chemist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You obviously dont know **** so take your bs and go home. And please stop using run on sentences. Typical 17 year olds, watch fast and furious and think they are turbo experts

http://www.pgmfi.org go there. Turbo edit is a rom editor for obd0 ecu (lets your pm6 run boost and able you to edit your own fuel maps and timing curves</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree with BOOSTED CHEMIST I've had my girls d15b2 boosted on 8lbs since it had 128,000miles on it. It now has 137,000 miles runs strong no loss of compression. Its all in the tune shitty tune(FMU, AFC hack) shitty results.