Many if not all of you will say NO. I'm totally new, but have decided to finally get a sportbike this year and get into the game. I appreciate the danger and risk, and in the last few days have been educating myself a lot, and this forum is pretty wicked, so thanks for being here....

I know how dangerous this is, and have been pretty easily convinced NOT to get a 1000. Simply too much power for a novice at the flick of a wrist.

600's of course arent' slouches.... they'll kill in a heartbeat to be sure, but my reaserch has informed me that they are entirely more forgiving, more "fun" for a beginner, and have better power:weight ratio.

I'm 6'6, and fit comfortably on the bike. I really don't want to get an early 90's crapper because I know how dangerous the potential can be on a Sport for a newbie, but at the same time... I'm 30, and can respect the speed and danger.... I intend to take the courses and everything....

thoughts please,
Eazyduzit


Modified by eazyduzit at 8:34 PM 10/9/2006

 

Since you have convinced yourself buy it. Get some good gear for when you go down. There are two kinds of riders those who have been down and those who are going down.

 

I know.... so what do suggest for my first ride?

 

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Then why post?

Unlike some 30+ year olds (IMR Merlin), I would THINK you are mature enough to start on a 600RR.

My friend who is 32 start on a `05 RR, he bought it brand new and hasn't abused it one bit because he knows the risks...

So if you haven't, take the MSF course (you learn a TON of riding skills), get quotes for insurance, and INVEST IN GEAR.

Good luck

 

what has your pal's experience been like not having abused it? how does he ride, when and how often does he ride?

I'd love to learn the machine and cruise slowly and eventually commute w it to work, continuously assuming every car is there to kill me.

This forum is great.

E

 

He rides it everyday weather permitting.

He also doesn't ride at night OR on the interstate (much).

He is very responsible and cautious, but still has his fun.

 

I bought my F4i off a 30-sum year old guy who bought it new as his first bike. He did some mods to it and rode it 6000 miles in a year. He never dropped it, and judging from the chicken strips he left me with, he didn't abuse (or use it). It's very possible to be mature about riding a motorcycle. It's also very easy to slip and be immature with that kind of power at your wrist's descretion.
I would say get what you want, you're an adult and can make your own decisions. Just try your best not to become another statistic.
If you want a forgiving first bike that's got a huge aftermarket and still has enough power not to bore you, check out an SV650.
Sit on some bikes and see what's comfortable. I would say f4i over RR for first bike, just because it's more comfortable. Either way, stay out of the higher revs for a while and just get used to riding the bike. Worry about performance riding later.

 

at first i thought this was a troll fishing for ignorant posts.

have fun. respect the bike FTW.

 

not at all fishing for ignorance.

I am a car freak who loves speed and racing. I have also wanted a bike for the last 10 years (always loved CBR and Ducati, always hated choppers and the like).... unlike earings and tattoos, I still want the bike and I'm gonna get one. But I respect the fact that I'm little more than a densly packed sack of water, I'm educating myself and you guys have been great so far.

I need to know the good, the bad and the ugly. For a long time, I'm just gonna ride around neighborhood streets like a ***** getting used to the thing and focussing on staying scared of it.

But the **** must simply rock where I live in SoCal.

E

also, chicken strips are what on the tire? the sides?

 

Chicken strips refer to the unused portion of the tires, usually nearest the sides/edges.

Be safe out there. SoCal can be a hard place to learn to ride, what with all the traffic and idiot cagers.

 

i jsut had the opportunity to take my 1000RR for a spin, and that bike SCARES me

 

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Yea! My friend who has owned several bikes now (600rr, GSXR 750, RC51, Mille, z1000) recently took an 04 1000rr for a test drive and said that so far it's the only bike to ever scare the poo out of him. He's no slouch rider either. He's always romped on all his bikes pretty hard. It sounds like I4 1000s would be WAY too much for me.

 

So basically, while we're all "stupid" to love these horses in the first place, a 600RR, if respected, can be a workable bike to begin my new bike life on?

I have to have the 1000rr eventually. I'll give myself 3 yrs on a 6. I can't wait to get started. What other tips do y'all have?

And tell me about opposite lock and the gyro effect and turning opposite to your intended direction....

E

 

I bought a 03 kawi zx6rr as my first bike. first night i pulled it off my friend's truck was the first time i ever got on a bike in my life. pretty damn scary to say the least.

 

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above around 15mph a wheel turns into a gyroscope ultimately effecting its actual direction from its actual directional input (dont ask me the details, i have no idea, but you should get the jist of what im saying).

so basically, when you push your right arm down, instead of turning left (because when you push your right arm down the wheel will point to the left slightly) you'll turn right. just remember, push to the side that you want to turn.

 

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I have to have the 1000rr eventually. I'll give myself 3 yrs on a 6. I can't wait to get started. What other tips do y'all have?

And tell me about opposite lock and the gyro effect and turning opposite to your intended direction....

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i would get a smaller, older bike to become familar with the controls and riding technique. it is much more forgiving....my 1000 is like...my 6th or 7th bike

 

hows that 1000rr on the road ngng?
im looking to get one within the next few months.

 

my cousin's just bought two bikes today, one 600 rr and the other got the 1000rr. My younger cousin that never rode got the 600rr and the other that hasn't rode or should say hasn't owned a bike for 3 years got the 1000rr. I say get the 600 or a rc51 to learn. Both a great beginer bikes. I been around bikes since I been a kid. I like the 600 Because I can throw it around like I want. But My boys 1000rr Demands respect. Both really demands alot of respect. But the 1000rr can get away from you very quickly. You can start with the 1000rr but stay out of the high revs for awhile. If you need help deciding I can take you down there to have a look at all of them

Besafe on what ever you do

 

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ive only ridden aorund the block, i'll know more tomorrow. i need to respring and valve the front forks. ill probly be doing some work with the shock and linkage in the rear too. sucks that its getting cold out

 

thats too bad.
so did you buy it personally from the guy who dropped it or from an auction?
a few weeks ago i saw an 06 1000rr at one of those autowrecking auctions. only problems were a cracked left lower, upper, and rear seat. i was drooling and trying to figure out how much i could get it for. what'd it run you if you dont mind me asking.

 

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there's no way that an RC51 is a good bike to learn on.

if the tq from a sloppy twist of the throttle on an F2 can scare a new rider, then a sloppy roll onto the RC's throttle is going to absolutely expletive a new rider up.

a 600rr prob isn't the best choice for first bike either. Remember that nothing says you have to be married to your first bike--starter bikes sell quick and for close to waht you paid. there's no disadvantages to spending a few months on a slow beater, learning how to ride, then upgrading to something more your flavor.

I don't know if you have any experience w/ auto-cross or road-racing or similar, but oftentimes, people try these things with performance oriented, high hp machines and think they're really fast because they've got this 320 whp rocket, and never learn how to REALLY drive the car. They fail to see that driving a bucket and really being forced to concentrate on driving the car is what makes you a fast DRIVER, and think that driving is about mashing the throttle and maybe "loosing the rear end" and "saving it".

I'd imagine that riding a bike fast is the same way, except even more demanding, given the hp:weight, and the physical demands of the sport. And i'm on a modern 600 within 7 months of learning how to ride, with plenty of stuff to learn, and sometimes i feel like not having a slow momentum bike is probably holding me back and letting me get away with bad habits...

 

I say do it. just be smart.

 

if u think u are mature enough get it.

i had the same dilema but i decided not to get one because i wanted to learn more on an older bike so i wouldnt have to worry as much about scratching it, letting it get rained on, ect. so take that into consideration as well as the maturity/responsibility factor.

 

dont get the cbr600 rr. i have ridden many bikes and that is probally one of the worst bikes i have ridden it is slow and uncomfertable. if u are looking for a nice 600 go with either the zx6r or the gsxr. some may say the r6 but i personally think that the balance is off on them and i got head shake when i would ride it.

hope some of this helped u out.

 

I would personally not do it.

The 600RR is not appreciably faster than the CBR F4i, which is a much more forgiving machine.

Also, a bike with clip-on bars is not very user-friendly, especially for a new rider, and you will be more likely to drop it at low speeds than you would be with a bike that had standard bars.

I got an R6 as my second bike and I don't think I was 'ready'. So now I'm back on a comparitively slow standard bike w/a V-twin.

I'd recommend an older CBR, personally, like an F3 or F4. Or an SV650.