My main concern is camber wear, anyone ever really dealt with that while using these springs. Or would a set of tein S or H tech be a lil better. i know camber correctors are cheap, just kinda wondering how it would go if i didn't buy them.

 

tire wear is always a problem when you lower a car no matter what set up you use the general rule of thumb is anything over 1.5 inch drop you will need a camber kit. You will need to realign the car no matter the amount of drop you do to keep everything in spec esp. the toe setting

 

I had sportlines on my 01 GSR and it handeled great
camber wear was not as bad as I thought but still could have used
a camber kit... I miss my teg but the eibachs rocked

 

yeah and its cheap too put the camber correctors on while your doing the springs, but with the h tech springs thier only like a 1.2" drop. so those should be fine? i'm not really goin for a medal in lowest car contests, just lookin for a more aggressive look, car looks like a 4 wheeler with 15" rims, lol

 

Eibach sportlines are good springs. They weren't too bouncy nor were they too stiff either. I had them on my ek for a while until my shocks blew. I had stock wheels on my car as well so the tire wear wasn't that bad, but it still gets bald after a while. Now I have the Tein Basics on my car and at first it was a little too bouncy, but after I got the alignment done my car is driving fine.

 

no problems here whatsoever with my sportlines. no uneven tire wear or anything. i would keep them if they were a little stiffer.

 

When will the misinformation cease. I put Eibach Sportlines on a girlfriend's '00 Civic DX Coupe. Rode wonderful. Perfect drop. The car has Fat 5's powerdercoated black w/ 195/55/15 Yoko ES100's. I put them on when she bought the car, as they were left over from my '99 Si. She has put some 30,000+ miles on them w/ the Yoko's. Fixed the toe after install and that was it. Tires wear BEAUTIFUL. Absolutely NO NEED FOR A CAMBER KIT. I run a ridiculous amount of negative camber on my track car. Wears even to the cords. I added a camber kit to GAIN negative camber.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr Hammond &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When will the misinformation cease. I put Eibach Sportlines on a girlfriend's '00 Civic DX Coupe. Rode wonderful. Perfect drop. The car has Fat 5's powerdercoated black w/ 195/55/15 Yoko ES100's. I put them on when she bought the car, as they were left over from my '99 Si. She has put some 30,000+ miles on them w/ the Yoko's. Fixed the toe after install and that was it. Tires wear BEAUTIFUL. Absolutely NO NEED FOR A CAMBER KIT. I run a ridiculous amount of negative camber on my track car. Wears even to the cords. I added a camber kit to GAIN negative camber.</TD></TR></TABLE>

any amount of negative camber is going to cause shoulder wear, POINT BLANK, this is not misinformation. running a little negative toe will help the wear, but no matter what negative camber puts more load (more heat)more wear) on the inside shoulder of the tire.

if driving down the street w/ -8° camber on the front wheels you better bet the tires will wear uneven. so the same is true for -2°, just not as drastic.

BTW: -/+ toe will destroy a tire WAY quicker than camber, - camber = -toe to reduce tire wear as much as possible.

 

so when an alignment is done, can they adjust the toe, or is that something i need to do myself? As theres no way in hell i'm going to try and install these myself. tried it once, was a nightmare. but thnx for the good info so far

 

mine are great. get an alignment after installing them

 

i had the sportlines on my previous car (96 celica). did an alignment immediately and didn't notice any significantly worsen tire wear over the year I have it.

 

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any amount of negative camber is going to cause shoulder wear, POINT BLANK, this is not misinformation. running a little negative toe will help the wear, but no matter what negative camber puts more load (more heat)more wear) on the inside shoulder of the tire.

if driving down the street w/ -8° camber on the front wheels you better bet the tires will wear uneven. so the same is true for -2°, just not as drastic.

BTW: -/+ toe will destroy a tire WAY quicker than camber, - camber = -toe to reduce tire wear as much as possible. </TD></TR></TABLE>

No it's really not. I have never had an issue EVER with shoulder wear caused by negative camber on a honda lowered 1-2" with less then 3degrees of negative camber. Now I have never run more then -3degrees or lowered a Honda more then about 2", but no one here should be on a daily driver. What do you consider negative toe? In or Out? You best bet in a daily is just to 0 it out. Especially on the front. Maybe a "little" in on the rear, but no more then 1/16" total. If you are driving down the street with -8degrees of negative camber you have other issues and no camber kit on the market right now is going to correct that. I have never had issues with tire wear caused by the negative 1-2degrees encountered when lower a Honda 1-2". All the people that come in here with lowered cars and inner shoulder wear has been a toe issue every time. If it does affect wear, it takes a lot longer then what the tire will last anyways.

If you guys want to spend the money on camber kits by all means go right ahead. They are not going to hurt your car with an experienced person doing the alignment. I would not have one on my car if I did not need MORE negative camber.

 

As long as your toe is in spec, you will be fine. Toe wears tires, camber decides where it wears.

 

yah but my ? was, who adjust the toe? the person doing the alignment or is that something i do?

 

yes, camber put the tire patch on the shoulder of the tire more than it would normally be, which is why it wears it faster than 0° camber.

the -8° thing was an example, if -8° is going to wear a tire then so will -2°, just not at the same rate. i agree, toe will destroy a tire faster than camber, but camber will just as well. negative toe (TOE OUT) will help correct negative camber wear (just a hair) dont know why but it does.


TOE ADJUSTMENT IS MADE BY THE ALIGNMENT TECH.

 

I absolutely love the drop these gave me, I require stiffer spring rates now. On goes the ground controls, and on goes my sportlines on your ej1.

 

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Hmmm that just doesnt seem possible. I have a toe in right now and it is shaving away at the outside of the tire. it would seem that toe out would hurt tire wear if there was a condition of negative camber.

 

awesome , now i feel pretty comfortable . i'll make sure i get a good alignment tech. and make sure my toe stays at zero, and bring in the rears just barely.

 

i don't think they lower the car enough to be worth it, here's an EJ8 on eibach sportlines and a hatch next to it on omni coilovers, you decide what you want

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schardbody &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the -8° thing was an example, if -8° is going to wear a tire then so will -2°, just not at the same rate. i agree, toe will destroy a tire faster than camber, but camber will just as well. negative toe (TOE OUT) will help correct negative camber wear (just a hair) dont know why but it does.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well -8 degrees will of course, because that is beyond extreme negative camber. However negative 2 degrees will not. Hell -2 degrees is still within FACTORY SPEC on the rear. You are probably right though. Honda probably forgot to take that into account though. It's funny that you think toe out will correct negative camber wear (an oxymoron in itself) because toe out causes inner tire wear and toe in causes outer tire wear. Hmmm....

If anyone wants to know the factory alignment specs for their car, just let me know.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2coupes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i don't think they lower the car enough to be worth it, here's an EJ8 on eibach sportlines</TD></TR></TABLE>

I call BS. That looks like a ProKit drop to me, hell maybe even H&R OE's. The girlfriends car ('00 Coupe) I put Sportlines on is perfect. No wheel gap.

 

it says sportline in his mod list

 

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Maybe that picture was taken before, or he doesn't know. Seriously the car looks stock. The girls car I put the sportlines on is almost as low is that hatch. Maybe 1/2" higher .

 

no, that pic was taken way after he installed them himself

 

thiers no way thats right^^^