ight so im building ls/vtec and i have ctr pistons and gsr head, now my buddies r telling me that it wont work it will blow! so i wanna know if anyone on here has done this setup. all other ls/vtec setups are welcome

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Fezzie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ight so im building ls/vtec and i have ctr pistons and gsr head, now my buddies r telling me that it wont work it will blow! so i wanna know if anyone on here has done this setup. all other ls/vtec setups are welcome </TD></TR></TABLE>


that advice from your buddies is the best you can get

 

Check the compression here:

http://www.zealautowerks.com

and you'll realize he's right. Oh, there's like 12345678098765 LS/VTEC setups if you look for them.

 

It'll work, just make sure you have your ecu tuned, and your timing where it should. I am running and LS-VTEC setup with a Eagle stroker kit installed. That is a 81mm x 95mm with SRP 12.1 compression. It is my daily driver, I would just retard the timing for the time being, until you can get it properly tuned. I am running a stock fuel setup, with a p72. Gets great gas mileage and good driveability. Just make sure to get a Type R oil pump. that is the key.


Make sure you get it tuned. My car runs great, no detonation whatsoever.

 

Also use ARP head studs if you have the few extra bucks or if not then use the GSR head bolts.

 

oh yeah CTR pistons and a GSR head is a proven combo

for insanely high compression and detonation GL with that

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1634768

 

in this day and age everyone should know by now. ls/vtec is not any less reliable then any other build, as long as the person who put it together knows what they're doing. Too many rookies get in over their head and put things together with out the proper knowledge or parts.

 

LSVTEC.

B16 head.

P30's.

13.17 @ 104.9mph in a 2600 LB. chasis.

Build it right, no issues.

 

daily driven lsvtec

pnp gsr head...(milled 000.20)

after-market usdm 81.5 p73 pistons

12.6 @107-108

 

frank. i have told you a million times. lsvtec + ctr pistons + gsr head = ~13.5:1CR

why cant you understand that this simply is COUNTERPRODUCTIVE with 91 octane cali **** fuel?

at this point pal, do what ya want. run 14.2:1, slap it together and drive to whitfields to get it tuned. just dont call me when it comes apart in yucca valley. call brad.

see the guy running p30s? see everyone and their mother running either p30s or jdm itrs? there is a reason. CTRs are even a tad bit much for an 87.2mm gsr crank, but people make it work for pump gas. but...89mm crank...no.

and that head is a 92/93, its 13+ yrs old...who is to say its never been milled .020''? that make for one rad 14:1+CR 91 octane motor.

slap it together frank. see how it runs since you dismiss good information that you just dont want to hear, in favor of **** information that coincides with your "plans"

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kiniku Chunks!!! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It'll work, just make sure you have your ecu tuned, and your timing where it should. I am running and LS-VTEC setup with a Eagle stroker kit installed. That is a 81mm x 95mm with SRP 12.1 compression. It is my daily driver, I would just retard the timing for the time being, until you can get it properly tuned. I am running a stock fuel setup, with a p72. Gets great gas mileage and good driveability. Just make sure to get a Type R oil pump. that is the key.


Make sure you get it tuned. My car runs great, no detonation whatsoever.</TD></TR></TABLE>

perfect. so the guy with the 12:1 motor is telling the poor kid with the 13.5:1 motor "itll be fine with tuning"

NO. stop with the misleading bullshit honda-tech info. have a great day.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JCushing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh yeah CTR pistons and a GSR head is a proven combo

for insanely high compression and detonation GL with that

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1634768</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by black_EM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Check the compression here:

http://www.zealautowerks.com

and you'll realize he's right. Oh, there's like 12345678098765 LS/VTEC setups if you look for them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

and notice the 2 guys above who have good running set ups are running
1. P73(itr)
2. P30(b16a2)

2 pistons i mentioned while standing out in front of autozone ricing it up last night. p30 has a little more dome, but still streetable. im goign to use RSmachines P30s in my 2 literblock in a couple weeks.

just remember, jump on honda-tech, and within 10-12 posts someone will probably tell you what you WANT to hear, and the result will be a bucket of bolts.

 

<FONT SIZE="5">Boom!</FONT>

That is all.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by black_EM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><FONT SIZE="5">Boom!</FONT>

That is all.</TD></TR></TABLE>

x10 in the morongo basin

&lt;buzzards circling&gt;

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kiniku Chunks!!! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Just make sure to get a Type R oil pump. that is the key.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

si/gsr/r oil pumps are the same

 

"type R" oil pump

LOLZ ...another classic h-t old wives tale.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Runnerdown &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">"type R" oil pump

LOLZ ...another classic h-t old wives tale.</TD></TR></TABLE>


LOL thats like saying "YOU NEED MORE V-TACH"

 

ight chad i got it now i believed you the first time i just wanted to see is anyone has done it ight no more ctr pistons for me

 

As long as you build it right, you'll be fine. Listen to all advice and make up your own mind. It's you car you can do what you want.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kiniku Chunks!!! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As long as you build it right, you'll be fine. Listen to all advice and make up your own mind. It's you car you can do what you want. </TD></TR></TABLE>

as long as you put posts like this through the idiot filter first, and see how they come out on the other side, youll be fine.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tha_badguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

si/gsr/r oil pumps are the same</TD></TR></TABLE>

the 1.6L ones work? what about the water pump?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bambam &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just wondering, what year is the b16 oil pump? If it is a 95 and below oil pump, then the LS oil pump is actually the superior pump (P72) as the 96+ B motors were equipped with P72 GSR/ITR pumps.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bambam &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Motors that have the superior P72 GSR/ITR oil pump:
94+ GSR (B18C)
96+ ITR
96+ B18B
96+ B20B/B20Z
96+ B16A
96+ B16B</TD></TR></TABLE>

Got this from another thread.

 

so the delsol vtec and 99-00 si b16 oil pump will work.

the main reason i ask isnt nessicarily compatibility, its be cuase of the age old cliche of honda dealers not sellign acura parts. theres a honda dealer close, and the closeest acura one is 2 hrs away in temecula. so, id rather just go pick up a new 22T water pump and 96 delsol oil pump than drive 2 hrs to temecula to get the "type-r which is the KEY!"

 

i have a type r oil pump

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Fezzie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a type r oil pump</TD></TR></TABLE>

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