There are alot of LS/VTEC Builds on here, but here's another one for your entertainment. I have yet to finish it but I'd like your Input on my build. You can be harsh or Be nice. I won't trip, I just want to see if i'm going the right direction.

Here's all the mods i can list on the top of my head.
JDM B16 Vtec Head-
Skunk2 Valve Train
Buddy Club Spec 4 Cams and Cam Gears
Greddy Timing Belt
MSD Ignition 6AL Cap,rotor, and ETC.
NGK 9mm Spark plug Wire with 1x iridium plugs
Port and Polish myself
3 angle Valve Job
Type R vtec Solenoid
Spoon Thermostat with Thermoswitch
ARP Head Studs
BDL High Flow Fuel rail w/ RC 310 injectors
Walbro 255LPH Fuel Pump
Comptech 4-1 headers
AEBS Intake Manifold Bored w/ 70mm Throttle Body
Spoon Venturi Intake Manifold Gasket
Injen Cold Air Intake
2.25'' Straight Pipe Exhaust w/ Apexi N1 Muffler






B18 Block-
Civic Type R Piston "PCT" coated with Teflon
LS Micropolished Crank
Nippon Rings
Arp Rod Bolts
Shotpeened,Resurfaced, and cryotreated LS RODS
ACL Race Bearings and Thrust Washer
B16 Water pump
ITR OiL Pump
Hamp oil Filter
Hot tanked



GSR transmission-
Exedy Stage 2 Clutch
Fidanza 7.5lbs Flywheel
New Throw Bearing
Avid Shift Linkage
Skunk2 Short Shifter with Shift ****
Energy Suspension stabilizer Bushing
GSR AXLES and Half Shaft
Helical LSD not Installed yet.



ECU-
P06 mapped like a P28 ECU
Skunk2 Chipped
4800 Vtec, 9200 RedLine, No Speed Gov.
Obd2B to OBD1 Jumper Harness


The Car- 1999 Honda Civic Coupe
Full interior, Red Rota C8's w/Nitto NeoGens 205/40R16, 4 wheel GSR Disc Brake w/All the Brake Components, Carbon Fiber Hood, and ETC.





Estimated CR- 12.4:1
Estimated HP- 215+ if not 205+
Estimated TQ-160ft/Lbs+

More pics to come. I haven't Finished the Project. Pistons, Rods, and Crankshaft are at the Shop. Basically waiting on My CAMS. But everything else is there. Well Let me know what you think. Had the same Set up before but with P30 pistons. Basically Switching Up things To CTR. Correct if my estimates are wrong.

 

160tq from 81x89.. doubt it

 

145 lbs TQ is if ur lucky..

i had about the same set-up and i only made 181whp and 133lbs tq on a dynojet..
and 84X89 makes around 145-155 lbs tq and 160-165 if it's a good solid build....

 

switch up to 2.5" exhaust
should be fun

 

That's thinking on the high side.

Otherwise, you wasted your money on the MSD stuff, a Type R vtec solenoid is the same as any other B-series solenoid, and to get some "real"ower out of it, you're going to need it tuned.

Please tell me that block is being hot-tanked at this very moment in time. I see rust. It might only be surface rust, but I'm paranoid like that.

 

I would run an oem timing belt thats me tough and definately go 2.5 inch piping w/ a resonator. And get a fresh hone on the block other thatn that I think its a good build.

 

get it done, tunned.. good luck. check out my ls/vtec build up

 

dont tell us your planning to daily drive on ACL Race Bearings

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Its that kidfolk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont tell us your planning to daily drive on ACL Race Bearings </TD></TR></TABLE>What does that mean? They are a bit harder yes, but if you keep your oil clean they will last a long time. They also give you a bigger margin of error--severe detonation that would kill an OEM bearing the ACL race will live through.

 

i ran ACL race bearings for 4300 miles this season. i also had my crankshaft heat-treated after i knifedged it so i wanted to run a harder bearing.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AzNKhMeRrAcErNzA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Estimated CR- 12.4:1</TD></TR></TABLE>
More like 14.0:1

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by black_EM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That's thinking on the high side.

Otherwise, you wasted your money on the MSD stuff, a Type R vtec solenoid is the same as any other B-series solenoid, and to get some "real"ower out of it, you're going to need it tuned.

Please tell me that block is being hot-tanked at this very moment in time. I see rust. It might only be surface rust, but I'm paranoid like that.</TD></TR></TABLE>





Other than what black_EM1 mentioned looks good. Good luck!

 

thanks. Yeah all that numbers is a Quick Guesstimate. I'd Like to see some Good Numbers. The block is definately Honed out. I'll get more pictures of the build when i start getting my parts back.

 

get rid of the msd it will save you some headache's in the long run.

 

wow that is my same exact build i am currently working on... i mean everything the same.. except i have a gsr block.. let me kno how it turns out.. is it running yet?

 

that typr r vtec seloniod will make all the difference, great power adder, makes like 10 more hp over non type r selonoids. i think youll be near 170trq with that beast, espesially when u have to tune it on race gas with that near 14:1 comp ratio using those pct's.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by black_EM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and to get some "real" power out of it, you're going to need it tuned.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Dump that chip and get it tuned just like the big boy cars.

Got any shots of the pnp?

 

goood setup.

 

ahh, looks like you got into a catalog for most of your parts: spoon this, greddy that, ITR thingy, blah, blah, blah.

Overall your list is okay. I see two problems that everone else has talked about.
1st the MSD, just use a OEM ignition instead. It'll save you a headache.
2nd the pistons, unless you plan on running a race gas mix ditch those PCTs. Your compression is going to be around 13.5:1. Pump gas and that compression make for a very shortlived motor. Also, with big cams you may have a P-V clearance problem.


Modified by mar778c at 9:38 AM 2/20/2007

 

Good luck bro.

That P06 most be modifed or do you plan on using some stand alone management system, cause with out one of the two you'll never see vtec. Even if it has been sockected and has a built chip in it, there is no pervison for vtec in that model ecu.

I agree with the other members on the below items;

Sticking with OEM Ign.
Chose another piston model
Get a ECU Managment system and get it tuned

Do some more research bro, that's what this forum is all about. We all had to start some where bro. Just take your time, and before you know it, you'll have a build that not only you will be proud of, but the rest of the H-T members will be too!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We're just here to help each other bro





Modified by fastlifemotorsports at 11:43 AM 2/20/2007

 

why everyone hating on the pct pistons...whats wront with them? cuz they cast.. so is every other oem piston so whats the problem.. its all about the tuner... i have seen many setups with pct's and run hard and good... and to clearfiy no it is not 14.1:1... dont believe the hype everyone

 

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Here's all the mods i can list on the top of my head.
MSD Ignition 6AL Cap,rotor, and ETC.
iridium plugs
Port and Polish myself
Spoon Venturi Intake Manifold Gasket
Injen Cold Air Intake
2.25'' Straight Pipe Exhaust w/ Apexi N1 Muffler

B18 Block-
Civic Type R Piston "PCT" coated with Teflon
Shotpeened,Resurfaced, and cryotreated LS RODS

GSR transmission
Avid Shift Linkage

ECU-
P06 mapped like a P28 ECU
Skunk2 Chipped
4800 Vtec, 9200 RedLine, No Speed Gov.

Estimated CR- 12.4:1
Estimated HP- 215+ if not 205+
Estimated TQ-160ft/Lbs+

Had the same Set up before but with P30 pistons. Basically Switching Up things To CTR.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have tried to list what I think are your potential weaknesses and/or wasted efforts.

You won't need all the MSD ignition stuff. It is a waste of money. The stock distributor is plenty strong.
I can't stand iridium plugs. They make it impossible to set proper gap.
Don't try to port and polish the head yourself unless you really know what you're doing.
Spoon venturi gasket is a waste of money. Use the stock one.
Make sure your Injen is a 3" cold-air
You will not want 2.25" exhaust, it will be a restriction. Get a 2.5" exhaust it will make more power.

PCT pistons will give you compression somewhere around 13 to 1. They are pretty heavy and the high domes can interfere with efficient combustion and air travel accross the head. You should have kept working on your old setup with the P30 pistons.
In my opinion, there is no need to shotpeen and cyotreat the LS rods, they will be fine to 9000rpm simply by adding the ARP rod bolts. The smaller oem rod bolts are the only thing that makes them weaker than stock vtec rods.

GSR tranny is a bit long for AM. Try to get yourself a B16 or ITR tranny much better gearing and acceleration.
Avid products are pretty much junk. Use the stock shift linkage.

You will not get very far at all running your 13 to 1 compression, RC 310cc injectors and pump gas with a simple Skunk 2 chip. Tune it properly on the dyno with Crome, etc. or you will be sorry. Also don't rev your car to 9200 either, Look at your dyno and set the rev limit a little after the spot where power begins to drop off. Over revving is not smart at all and will shorten the life of your motor.

It is extremely unlikely that your setup will make 160wtq. You are much more likely to see torque in the mid to low 140s.

Just my 2 cents, Good luck with your build Keep us updated.

 

Yeah, Get rid of the MSD crap, be wise to look for another tranny such as b16 or ITR,spoon thermo is worthless, spoon ventuli is worthless.

SHoud come out strong though, Make sure you tune it, don't go off that ecu chip cause you will be mad it it dies.

 

good info.

 

Nice build, im planning on starting mine real soon