ok its coming up on winter and my ls mesh's need new tires out of these two which one should i get?

First is Falken's Ziex ZE-512 ( on the wheels now ) or should i get
Nitto's NT 450's? anyone use either one? the treadwear on the falkens is 350 the nitto's is 300 anything will be a help


thanks

 

anyone? i want to order them today

 

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I am running the Nitto NT450's right now. I am not impressed. The treadwear sucks and traction in anything but dry is sketchy at best. I haven't gotten to use them in snow yet, but I can only imagine from their performance in rain that they will suck.

 

falken FTW!!

 

The Ziex's have my vote for winter tires, I'm probably ordering a set.

 

i am ordering the falkens thanks a lot

 

i have falken's on them now i liked them alot but wasn't sure how well the nitto's were

 

They're both nothing great. You can get better all-seasons for your money.

If you've got 15" wheels, get the Kumho Ecsta ASX, as good as any all-season and a bargain at $50/tire in 195/55-15, $44/tire in 205/50-15, prices from the Tire Rack after rebate.

If you've got 14" wheels, the only really good all-season is the Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS, $74/tire in 195/60-14.

Both of these tires are much, much better than the Falken Ziex ZE-512 or the Nitto NT450.

 

i paid $42 a tire for my ziex 512's from discounttire.com 205/50/15 awesome tire no complaints at all i havent used them in snow yet and prob wont cause i got steelies with snow tires but still a great tire

 

P.S. Kumho's are junk worst tire i ever wasted money on

 

falien 512 is one ugly tire..... i'll stick witht he nitto neogez man. got them on the rear and 2 new falkens on front. hope the falken wears out soon so i can replace them with the nittos.

 

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That depends on which tire you got. Like most brands, Kumho makes some tires that are just terrible - such as the Kumho Ecsta Supra 712 and Ecsta 711 summer tires, and the KH11 all-seasons - and some tires that offer excellent performance and value - such as the Kumho Ecsta MX and Ecsta SPT summer tires, the ASX all-seasons, and the Ecsta V710 and V700 Victoracer track tires. You just need to buy the good ones and avoid the bad ones. The same thing is true of just about every other tire company around. (Okay, maybe not Hoosier. )

P.S. I bet the tires you got were one of the tires I mention as "terrible" and you've never tried any of the tires I mention as "excellent". Am I right?

 

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Mixing those tires is not a good idea. The Falken Ziex ZE-512 is an all-season tire, and the Nitto Neogen is a summer tire. That means the two ends of your car will behave entirely differently. (In warmer temperatures, the Neogens grip better - can you say UNDERSTEER? - and in colder temperatures, the Falkens grip better - OVERSTEER, BABY!)

It's best not to mix different tires, especially if they have drastically different performance characteristics.

 

If u really want some good tires and money is not a questions, then u should get the Bridgestone Pontenza G 009 at tirerack.......they are bout $90 depending on which size u want ( i got 205/50/15 on my GSR Blades)........ they well last forever and are all season tires.

 

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The G009 is a really lousy all-season tire. Nowhere near as good as the best all-season tires, like the Kumho Ecsta ASX, Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS, Pirelli PZero Nero M&S, etc. Not surprising, since Bridgestone makes the G009 to be cheap, and they make the RE960AS to perform.

 

i ordered the falken's i had them on the ls wheels i paid $67 a tire

 

be careful with tire tread wear ratings between diff manufactureres. there is no set standard. a falkens 400 might be equal to a goodyars 300.

 

go with the falken's

 

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That depends on which tire you got. Like most brands, Kumho makes some tires that are just terrible - such as the Kumho Ecsta Supra 712 and Ecsta 711 summer tires, and the KH11 all-seasons - and some tires that offer excellent performance and value - such as the Kumho Ecsta MX and Ecsta SPT summer tires, the ASX all-seasons, and the Ecsta V710 and V700 Victoracer track tires. You just need to buy the good ones and avoid the bad ones. The same thing is true of just about every other tire company around. (Okay, maybe not Hoosier. )

P.S. I bet the tires you got were one of the tires I mention as "terrible" and you've never tried any of the tires I mention as "excellent". Am I right?
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I ran Kumho Ecsta 711 as well as the ASX on steelies and was not impressed by either i have several sets of wheel and tire combos one for every ocassion auto x, road racing, drag(steelies with some old snow tires... i dont drag much), daily and winter so i have bought my fair share of tires and just never liked Kumhos but i hear what your sayin and oh yeah i love my hoosiers R6's FTW

 

are u sure man? i drove with my neogenz during the winter and rain and it was fine...

 

i have had both on my teg...falkens are the way to go.

 

i used the falkens last winter i liked them i wasn't sure if the nitto's would be better

 

nsxtasy... THANKS FOR THE REBATE LINK!!! I bought my ASX last week, in 205/50/15, and had NO idea there was a rebate!

Initial impressions, The steering response is near immediate, seems sorta sudden to me, it may be partially being used to NO power steering in my azenis civic, where as I have power steering in this integra. Im gonna give them a few days to get broken in, they feel good so far thought!