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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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Ok heres the deal...I have a 92 si hatch z6 I have put a AEM intake, throttle body spacer, full Apexi exhaust with a high flow cat and an OBX 2 piece header. I just got a deal on a new DC Sports 1 piece header and I would like to know which header would be the best to use for performance. I like the fact that the DC has a mount for the stock bracket at the collector to hold the header up. Plus I thought DC is one of the best headers but I have heard mixed reviews. Please give me some help here.........Thanx
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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They're both about the same, no major difference.
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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What performance? You've spent like $1000 and gained what, 2-4whp?
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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theres no diffrence you'll notice.. just stay with what you have.
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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I wouldn't waste money on a new header, unless you build it n/a.
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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Essentially a 1 piece (or 2piece but slipover not bolt on flanges) is better I think because it flows better and less weight.

But going from a OBX to a DC is not gonna be tremendously different. Especially on a Z6
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 07:58 PM
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I know I'm probably going to come off like an ******* for saying this...but I'ma say it anyway. They're all the same for your car. A D16Z6 is <u>almost</u> the bottom of the food chain for a Honda engine. ANY header you put on it as long as it's in one piece (aka. not leaking or cracked) will give you a maximum of 5whp as the engine remains in it's current condition. You may feel a difference, but you're not going to be able to take one header off and put another on and be like "oh yeah, that made a shitload of difference" - so just go for the cheapest non-ebay brand.
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 07:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know I'm probably going to come off like an ******* for saying this...but I'ma say it anyway. They're all the same for your car. A D16Z6 is <u>almost</u> the bottom of the food chain for a Honda engine. ANY header you put on it as long as it's in one piece (aka. not leaking or cracked) will give you a maximum of 5whp as the engine remains in it's current condition. You may feel a difference, but you're not going to be able to take one header off and put another on and be like "oh yeah, that made a shitload of difference" - so just go for the cheapest non-ebay brand.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Tell that to Dave at SMSP lol
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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The only measurable gains from a header on a d16z6 .... are on the butt-dyno.
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkoundrelUSA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Tell that to Dave at SMSP lol </TD></TR></TABLE>

Copy & paste, I would be glad to.

There's no way on for what's all intents and purposes a STOCK D16Z6 will yield more than 5whp with a <U>STREET</U> header.
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 08:04 PM
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well now you said stock
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkoundrelUSA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well now you said stock </TD></TR></TABLE>

Always said stock, read what I wrote "as the engine remains in it's current condition" meaning not a year from now when he decides to drop a GSR in there.
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 08:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkoundrelUSA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well now you said stock </TD></TR></TABLE>

syndacate's notorious for talking out his ***... 3000+ posts of nonsense
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 08:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thahuhstunna &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">syndacate's notorious for talking out his ***... 3000+ posts of nonsense </TD></TR></TABLE>

He said I was changing my story when I simply...didn't. That's why he didn't post back - I wasn't trying to be an *******, just stating a fact. 3000 posts of nonsense, eh? If you believe all 3000 of them are nonsense then howcome you've read every single one after the first...say 10? You'd have to to know every single one of them is nonsense, wouldn't you?

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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 10:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He said I was changing my story when I simply...didn't. That's why he didn't post back - I wasn't trying to be an *******, just stating a fact. 3000 posts of nonsense, eh? If you believe all 3000 of them are nonsense then howcome you've read every single one after the first...say 10? You'd have to to know every single one of them is nonsense, wouldn't you?

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because you post on EVERY SINGLE THREAD! in this forum. it's hard to miss with all the flies drawn to your mindless dribble.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 03:28 AM
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QFT.

And I don't even post in here that much.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 03:30 AM
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I know for a fact 2-piece offers more clearance...
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 03:33 AM
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There is that. As well as ease of installation. For some, anyways.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 07:15 AM
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ALL THIS OVER SOME DAM HEADERS

I GOT MINES OFF EBAY.

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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 07:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Steven Poljak &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ALL THIS OVER SOME DAM HEADERS

I GOT MINES OFF EBAY.

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So you bought 2?
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 08:45 AM
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Everyone know 1 bank of cylinders = 1 header. But the cool people have 2 headers for a 4 cylinder.

*saracasm*
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 12:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by black_EM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Everyone know 1 bank of cylinders = 1 header. But the cool people have 2 headers for a 4 cylinder.

*saracasm*</TD></TR></TABLE>

My bad I understand, So for my K=swap, all need headers





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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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i would go with a 1 peice, i have a 2 peice and i get better mid power but i would rather have the high end power of the 1 peice. but why does everyone insist on dc $&@# DC get something cheaper like megans racng or tsudo... dc is waste of money
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92’si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i would go with a 1 peice, i have a 2 peice and i get better mid power but i would rather have the high end power of the 1 peice. but why does everyone insist on dc $&@# DC get something cheaper like megans racng or tsudo... dc is waste of money</TD></TR></TABLE>

i think your confused. the mid range and high range are differences in 4-2-1 and 4-1 header
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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yeah, 2 piece is more for easier installation. IMO its easier to do a 1 piece. Instead of bolting **** down in a tight area (if you have a/c,p/s) just yank that **** up lol
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