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Modified by HB1234 at 10:56 PM 8/18/2007

 

Well from what i remember if you get the good set of IPS cams or something like that, later down the road the right sized cams for your motor, right now the right cam for 2.4s has been the new KME's. Some guy with 12:1 comp and stock borexstroke on k24 with RBC and tuned with a SSR header pulled 270whp and like 19xtq.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BolivianFuego &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well from what i remember if you get the good set of IPS cams or something like that, later down the road the right sized cams for your motor, right now the right cam for 2.4s has been the new KME's. Some guy with 12:1 comp and stock borexstroke on k24 with RBC and tuned with a SSR header pulled 270whp and like 19xtq. </TD></TR></TABLE>
dang thats nice numbers. Well the reason I mentioned K10 was cause awhile back I saw some set ups running those on high compression K motors and also they mentioned them on honda tuning magazine when their project rsx switched from K2s to K10s. What are the specs on the KMEs and price? BUt also consider what I asked though. will these cams perform well on a stock compression k24 block? (again motor will be getting built down the road) Oh yea can someone help me on the tranny question too, thinking of buying one or the other this weekend

 

I doubt they would hurt with stock compression. As i said above Ron has some kind of trade in program wiht his cams when you want to upgrade for like free or something. Talk to him for more info.

 

for the tranny I have a friend with a EG K20R swap and he ends his 1/4 in 5th. Thats proably cause he is using 22" slicks. He borrowed some 23 or 24's once I forgot which ones but he ended his 1/4 in 4th (redline). He is pushing 220whp. Just some info for u, but I really cant answer your question cause I have never seen any K24s run, but I have read some are using the 5 speed trannys

 

Ron has cams called IPS-K2SE's, that are better designed for K24 motors. I believe they run the K10 low speed lobe, with the K2 high speed lobe.
The Kme's are also nice cams to run on a K24 setup.
The IPS-K10's are meant for engines are really going to rev high, like over 9krpm.

Get on K20a.org and do yourself a search, and see how each cam is doing in what motor.

As for the tranny, i would definitely use the Type S tranny with Quaife LSD, and if needed a 4.764 FD from the ITR/FG2/TSX.
Mess with different sized slicks to get the gearing right. I think a 24.5"-25" slick would be nice on a Type S tranny, if i am not mistaken.
Again, do a search over on k20a.org for more info.

Here's a chart i put together.



-Jalal

 

with all that torque, the stock LSD would break eventually when dragging your car.

too bad i wasn't your friend's friend...i woulda bought his dc5r tranny.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RODIMUS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with all that torque, the stock LSD would break eventually when dragging your car.

too bad i wasn't your friend's friend...i woulda bought his dc5r tranny.</TD></TR></TABLE>

dang I never thought of that. the reason I would choose the R tranny over the S is cause the price. Ive seen the R trannys go for like 1,500 or so, so 1,200 is not bad. the type S I found was like 800. So if I get the type S tranny I still have to buy/install a LSD which is about $900, and maybe get a final drive. Thats about 1,700 w/ final drive upgrade if needed but oh well haha. Thats one of the big reasons Im leaning towards the R tranny cause of the stock LSD it comes with. Is anyone running a big torque number K motor w/ a R tranny?

 

is this table 100 percent accurate?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmsijdm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is this table 100 percent accurate?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I put it together using all spec's available online. I found that all the spec's on the Acura site were rounded up. I used the Honda Japan site for alot of spec's and did alot of research through different sites skimming the tranny spec's making sure they all matched.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HB1234 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dang I never thought of that. the reason I would choose the R tranny over the S is cause the price. Ive seen the R trannys go for like 1,500 or so, so 1,200 is not bad. the type S I found was like 800. So if I get the type S tranny I still have to buy/install a LSD which is about $900, and maybe get a final drive. Thats about 1,700 w/ final drive upgrade if needed but oh well haha. Thats one of the big reasons Im leaning towards the R tranny cause of the stock LSD it comes with. Is anyone running a big torque number K motor w/ a R tranny?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I would definitely not use the stock ITR LSD to drag race. It has been known to break under serious abuse, and would not be worse the hassle (atleast to me) if it were to break.
I say, upgrade to a Quaife, sell the OEM LSD, and then if need be, upgrade to an ITR FD.

-Jalal

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HB1234 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

dang I never thought of that. the reason I would choose the R tranny over the S is cause the price. Ive seen the R trannys go for like 1,500 or so, so 1,200 is not bad. the type S I found was like 800. So if I get the type S tranny I still have to buy/install a LSD which is about $900, and maybe get a final drive. Thats about 1,700 w/ final drive upgrade if needed but oh well haha. Thats one of the big reasons Im leaning towards the R tranny cause of the stock LSD it comes with. Is anyone running a big torque number K motor w/ a R tranny?</TD></TR></TABLE>

the type s gearing is better for the k24.
the quaife has a lifetime warranty..and is warrantied under racing as well.

 

you'll need to use 25" slicks anyway, 7900rpm is absolute max you should Be revvingrv rods with type s oilpump
the kme or 10 are both great, if you have xtra money get some stock size flat valves in there to bump compr.
btw, the crv and tsx are the only piston valve reliefs that clears the S valves

get the R tranny, so you goto 5th, big deal ... 1200 is a bargain

 

Just to clarify, the CRV K24 block is only 9.5 CR, NOT 10.5.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CHEETAH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you'll need to use 25" slicks anyway, 7900rpm is absolute max you should Be revvingrv rods with type s oilpump
the kme or 10 are both great, if you have xtra money get some stock size flat valves in there to bump compr.
btw, the crv and tsx are the only piston valve reliefs that clears the S valves

get the R tranny, so you goto 5th, big deal ... 1200 is a bargain</TD></TR></TABLE>

7,900 max on stock CRV internals Correct? im coo with that, how I said Im gunna be building it down the road. I actually picked up the type S tranny not the R. I Had some integra B series hasport mounts laying around that were collecting dust, So I traded the guy plus $550 bux for the tranny . With the money saved from noe getting the R I gunna get the quaife LSD


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RODIMUS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

the type s gearing is better for the k24.
the quaife has a lifetime warranty..and is warrantied under racing as well.</TD></TR></TABLE>

lifetime thats nice to know, didnt know that

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbo9Nut &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just to clarify, the CRV K24 block is only 9.5 CR, NOT 10.5.</TD></TR></TABLE>

is that in all yrs? or certain ones

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HB1234 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I Had some integra B series hasport mounts laying around that were collecting dust, So I traded the guy plus $550 bux for the tranny . With the money saved from noe getting the R I gunna get the quaife LSD

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awesome deal

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmsijdm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is this table 100 percent accurate?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Aparently not...
I don't see the JDM SUV ratio of 5.06 which we run in our JDM K-20 Type R Powered DC Integra (Honda Cup) Works well with the CUSCO LSD. And some mixing and matching of OEM Honda Gear ratios.

Kiwi

 

Any Comment???

 

how does that jdm FD compare to a usdm crv FD?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KIWI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Aparently not...
I don't see the JDM SUV ratio of 5.06 which we run in our JDM K-20 Type R Powered DC Integra (Honda Cup) Works well with the CUSCO LSD. And some mixing and matching of OEM Honda Gear ratios.

Kiwi</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you could find the JDM CR-V gear ratio's for the years that the 5.062 FD was offered, then i would gladly add that to my table.
If i am not mistaken, Honda only made the CR-V in manual for a year or two and then switched it over to automatic only.

-Jalal

 

You know what... i just tried out new investigative methods, and i found out some good info.
Thanks for the motivation!
I will update this table asap.
It is unfortunate that i do not know how long this model has bene offered for.

-Jalal

 

Here we go... updated.



-Jalal

 

Well done!

Kiwi

 

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Kiwi


Modified by KIWI at 5:09 PM 12/4/2006

 

i know somone who ran adn still runs what you would call a "small cam" skunk stage 1's...
prior set up was a stock k24 tsx block with a stock K20 head with ITB's... that car ran 12.3's on 91 oct. with the block smoking....

now the motor is built pistons and all and with those same skunk stage 1 cams made 267hp and has ran 11.4... not bad for a street car ... he is running a stock type S trans