EDU: Bypassing the clutch
Purpose of this? To be able to start the car without pushing in the clutch for those who are lazy or want to install a remote start. What situation would this be useful for? Cold cold winter where you want to start the car and warm it up without actually having to sit in the seat and push clutch.
**WARNING** - Always make sure the car is in NEUTRAL when starting the engine with this mod.
1. Locate the clutch bypass switch. It's the yellow plug right above the clutch pedal.

2. Unplug it (Someone could make a antitheft switch right here as the car now would not start even if you push in the clutch)

3. Necessary tools (a ******* wire/paperclip/anything that conduct electricity & electrical tape)

4. Complete the circuit.

5. Tape it up & now you can start the car without pushing in the clutch. Be careful not to leave the car in gear when you do or else you're going to hit something.
I'll say it again, make sure the car is in <U>NEUTRAL</U> when you start the engine! There are too many idiots out there that has already hit something with this mod.
**WARNING** - Always make sure the car is in NEUTRAL when starting the engine with this mod.
1. Locate the clutch bypass switch. It's the yellow plug right above the clutch pedal.

2. Unplug it (Someone could make a antitheft switch right here as the car now would not start even if you push in the clutch)

3. Necessary tools (a ******* wire/paperclip/anything that conduct electricity & electrical tape)

4. Complete the circuit.

5. Tape it up & now you can start the car without pushing in the clutch. Be careful not to leave the car in gear when you do or else you're going to hit something.
I'll say it again, make sure the car is in <U>NEUTRAL</U> when you start the engine! There are too many idiots out there that has already hit something with this mod.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dcmix5 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I advise against it heavily, and I really, really advise against it if you put a remote start in.</TD></TR></TABLE>
okay, care to EXPLAIN why?
okay, care to EXPLAIN why?
Sure, I'll explain why.
You will forget that your car is in gear at some point. I can guarantee that. Once you do forget, and you have a remote start that has not employed a proper neutral sensing device or parking brake sensor, you will get to watch your car buck through your garage wall while fighting the e-brake (if it is on).
Also, in day to day operation, without a remote start, you may do the same thing by just turning the key. Your girlfriend, mom, or service guy may do it because they don't know about the bypass when they need to move your car, etc.
This is a safety device that serves an important function, and bypassing it because you are lazy or too cheap to do it properly is plain ignorant.
You will forget that your car is in gear at some point. I can guarantee that. Once you do forget, and you have a remote start that has not employed a proper neutral sensing device or parking brake sensor, you will get to watch your car buck through your garage wall while fighting the e-brake (if it is on).
Also, in day to day operation, without a remote start, you may do the same thing by just turning the key. Your girlfriend, mom, or service guy may do it because they don't know about the bypass when they need to move your car, etc.
This is a safety device that serves an important function, and bypassing it because you are lazy or too cheap to do it properly is plain ignorant.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dcmix5 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
This is a safety device that serves an important function, and bypassing it because you are lazy or too cheap to do it properly is plain ignorant.</TD></TR></TABLE>
interesting coming from the same guy who has....
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dcmix5 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is an old trick, done on many vehicles in the past.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i think that it depends on the owner and there driving/parking habits, I know i always park in neutral unless im on a hill.
And if a family member/ technician/someone else starts the car and does not know about it i would imagine they would push in the clutch anyway
good job on the write up.
This is a safety device that serves an important function, and bypassing it because you are lazy or too cheap to do it properly is plain ignorant.</TD></TR></TABLE>
interesting coming from the same guy who has....
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dcmix5 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is an old trick, done on many vehicles in the past.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i think that it depends on the owner and there driving/parking habits, I know i always park in neutral unless im on a hill.
And if a family member/ technician/someone else starts the car and does not know about it i would imagine they would push in the clutch anyway
good job on the write up.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dcmix5 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You will forget that your car is in gear at some point. .</TD></TR></TABLE>
no, not really, 90% of the time, I don't leave the car in gear, only the ebrake up... only when I'm on a hill (like my sorry *** driveway) do I leave it in gear (which I park in the garage like 90% of the time)
so i guess it depends on WHO YOU ARE
but i guess thanks for your PERSONAL opinion on why this shouldn't be done
EDIT: on a personal note, glad to hear that there are alarms out that that sense if its not in gear...
I now know to get that based off your negative response to this modification
no, not really, 90% of the time, I don't leave the car in gear, only the ebrake up... only when I'm on a hill (like my sorry *** driveway) do I leave it in gear (which I park in the garage like 90% of the time)
so i guess it depends on WHO YOU ARE
but i guess thanks for your PERSONAL opinion on why this shouldn't be done
EDIT: on a personal note, glad to hear that there are alarms out that that sense if its not in gear...
I now know to get that based off your negative response to this modification
I never said I did it on my vehicles, I was simply stating that this is not a new trick.
I used to own a car audio and remote starter business, so I have seen it all. That is why I have a strong opinion on this, and I have seen more than one vehicle come into my shop that has had this kind of hack job done to it.
Either way, you can do what you want with your own vehicles, but this just simply isn't worth the risks involved. You gain nothing of value, but open yourself up for a whole bunch of potential badness.
Carry on.
I used to own a car audio and remote starter business, so I have seen it all. That is why I have a strong opinion on this, and I have seen more than one vehicle come into my shop that has had this kind of hack job done to it.
Either way, you can do what you want with your own vehicles, but this just simply isn't worth the risks involved. You gain nothing of value, but open yourself up for a whole bunch of potential badness.
Carry on.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dcmix5 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I used to own a car audio and remote starter business, so I have seen it all. That is why I have a strong opinion on this, and I have seen more than one vehicle come into my shop that has had this kind of hack job done to it.
Either way, you can do what you want with your own vehicles, but this just simply isn't worth the risks involved. You gain nothing of value, but open yourself up for a whole bunch of potential badness.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I see now why your opinion is as opinionated as it is
makes more sense heh, so i retract my previous... "sarcastic" statements
I used to own a car audio and remote starter business, so I have seen it all. That is why I have a strong opinion on this, and I have seen more than one vehicle come into my shop that has had this kind of hack job done to it.
Either way, you can do what you want with your own vehicles, but this just simply isn't worth the risks involved. You gain nothing of value, but open yourself up for a whole bunch of potential badness.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I see now why your opinion is as opinionated as it is
makes more sense heh, so i retract my previous... "sarcastic" statements
No problem at all. Forums are designed for sharing opinions.
I can understand the point of this "mod" for what it does, but it just seems too easy to get hurt or a good way to damage your car.
I personally bucked my 85 Prelude into a hotel brick wall because it didn't have this kind of switch.
I can understand the point of this "mod" for what it does, but it just seems too easy to get hurt or a good way to damage your car.
I personally bucked my 85 Prelude into a hotel brick wall because it didn't have this kind of switch.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by N4me (06civicsi) »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what would be the proper method if u`r installing an auto starter? </TD></TR></TABLE>
You need a remote starter that is designed for a manual.
This explains it exactly:
http://www.autoalarmpro.com/remote_starter_for_m_t
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">About Installing Remote Starters for Manual Transmissions:
How different is it to install a Remote Starter for a Manual Transmission as compared to a standard system for an automatic transmission vehicle? And how does a manual transmission system ensure a safe start? How does it work? Heres the answers...
Installing a remote starter on a manual transmission vehicle is almost the same as installing a system on a automatic trans, with just two difference's. First, theres one extra wire from the system that needs to be connected to a wire in the vehicle that runs to the vehicles emergency brake. This wire will show a GROUND SIGNAL only when the parking brake is set.
Two, theres a second starter wire output (or ignition output, depending on the vehicle) from the system thats connected to the vehicles clutch activation wire that runs to the vehicles clutch switch, commonly found above the clutch pedal itself. This wire will show a positive or negative polarity (depending on make of vehicle) when the vehicles ignition is on and/or in the start position when the clutch is engaged.
To ensure a safe start with a remote starter on a vehicle with a manual transmission, a set-up procedure, must be followed before you exit the vehicle.
This procedure is commonly called the "REMOTE START READY MODE". The routine to enable, or set, the remote starter is done when parking the vehicle. While the vehicle is still running, you set the emergency brake and place the vehicle in neutral. Then, while the vehicle is still running, you press a button on the remote which will cause the systems status LED to flash along with the parking lights. You then remove the keys from the ignition and will notice that the engine will stay running. Within 15 seconds, you exit the vehicle and after closing the door press a button on the remote that will shut the engine down. Your vehicle can now be remote started safely. If this procedure is not followed exactly everytime before you try to attempt to remote start your vehicle, the remote start feature of the system will not operate. </TD></TR></TABLE>
You need a remote starter that is designed for a manual.
This explains it exactly:
http://www.autoalarmpro.com/remote_starter_for_m_t
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">About Installing Remote Starters for Manual Transmissions:
How different is it to install a Remote Starter for a Manual Transmission as compared to a standard system for an automatic transmission vehicle? And how does a manual transmission system ensure a safe start? How does it work? Heres the answers...
Installing a remote starter on a manual transmission vehicle is almost the same as installing a system on a automatic trans, with just two difference's. First, theres one extra wire from the system that needs to be connected to a wire in the vehicle that runs to the vehicles emergency brake. This wire will show a GROUND SIGNAL only when the parking brake is set.
Two, theres a second starter wire output (or ignition output, depending on the vehicle) from the system thats connected to the vehicles clutch activation wire that runs to the vehicles clutch switch, commonly found above the clutch pedal itself. This wire will show a positive or negative polarity (depending on make of vehicle) when the vehicles ignition is on and/or in the start position when the clutch is engaged.
To ensure a safe start with a remote starter on a vehicle with a manual transmission, a set-up procedure, must be followed before you exit the vehicle.
This procedure is commonly called the "REMOTE START READY MODE". The routine to enable, or set, the remote starter is done when parking the vehicle. While the vehicle is still running, you set the emergency brake and place the vehicle in neutral. Then, while the vehicle is still running, you press a button on the remote which will cause the systems status LED to flash along with the parking lights. You then remove the keys from the ignition and will notice that the engine will stay running. Within 15 seconds, you exit the vehicle and after closing the door press a button on the remote that will shut the engine down. Your vehicle can now be remote started safely. If this procedure is not followed exactly everytime before you try to attempt to remote start your vehicle, the remote start feature of the system will not operate. </TD></TR></TABLE>
well this mod is not for everyone. some people are really not that bright and need to be protected from themselves. as for me, i never had any incident or accidents with this mod. Did it with my 90 Supra Turbo and my 92 300ZX for many many years.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Beefkake »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also, there are laws against this in many states because it is unsafe. Check your local laws before doing this.</TD></TR></TABLE>
1 mph over the speed limit is against the law
tinted front windows is against the law in most state
changing lanes without signal is against the law
aggressive driving (changing lanes too often) is against the law
straight pipes is against the law
brake check is against the law
tailgating is against the law
1 mph over the speed limit is against the law
tinted front windows is against the law in most state
changing lanes without signal is against the law
aggressive driving (changing lanes too often) is against the law
straight pipes is against the law
brake check is against the law
tailgating is against the law
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dcmix5 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sure, I'll explain why.
You will forget that your car is in gear at some point. I can guarantee that. Once you do forget, and you have a remote start that has not employed a proper neutral sensing device or parking brake sensor, you will get to watch your car buck through your garage wall while fighting the e-brake (if it is on).
Also, in day to day operation, without a remote start, you may do the same thing by just turning the key. Your girlfriend, mom, or service guy may do it because they don't know about the bypass when they need to move your car, etc.
This is a safety device that serves an important function, and bypassing it because you are lazy or too cheap to do it properly is plain ignorant.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ditto
and dont forget VALET"s!!
You will forget that your car is in gear at some point. I can guarantee that. Once you do forget, and you have a remote start that has not employed a proper neutral sensing device or parking brake sensor, you will get to watch your car buck through your garage wall while fighting the e-brake (if it is on).
Also, in day to day operation, without a remote start, you may do the same thing by just turning the key. Your girlfriend, mom, or service guy may do it because they don't know about the bypass when they need to move your car, etc.
This is a safety device that serves an important function, and bypassing it because you are lazy or too cheap to do it properly is plain ignorant.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ditto
and dont forget VALET"s!!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kroze »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1 mph over the speed limit is against the law
tinted front windows is against the law in most state
changing lanes without signal is against the law
aggressive driving (changing lanes too often) is against the law
straight pipes is against the law
brake check is against the law
tailgating is against the law
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Insurance dropping you because you altered the clutch by pass if the car goes flying into someone... > the above
tinted front windows is against the law in most state
changing lanes without signal is against the law
aggressive driving (changing lanes too often) is against the law
straight pipes is against the law
brake check is against the law
tailgating is against the law
</TD></TR></TABLE>Insurance dropping you because you altered the clutch by pass if the car goes flying into someone... > the above
Well from experience I had a remote starter on my 99 si and I would always leave it in neutral... Well I took my car to the body shop "rear ended someone" to get it fix.. Well I left my remote on the set of keys... ADVICE "never do that" and the guy was messing with the remote being curious and accidentally started it in 1st gear.. Well he didn't know that I had a remote starter on it, and it was my fault.. The car ran into a frame machine and almost ran over the guy taking off the front bumper.. So if you do decide to put one on make sure you put a label under the hood saying it has one or take your remote and just leave them the ign. key just to cover your @ss.. I had to pay out of my pocket the $1500 more dollars worth of damages.. The body shop said it just turned on by itself... OK...
My advice is just be careful.. It dangerous unless it's hooked up right..
My advice is just be careful.. It dangerous unless it's hooked up right..
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by busakiller »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well from experience I had a remote starter on my 99 si and I would always leave it in neutral... Well I took my car to the body shop "rear ended someone" to get it fix.. Well I left my remote on the set of keys... ADVICE "never do that" and the guy was messing with the remote being curious and accidentally started it in 1st gear.. Well he didn't know that I had a remote starter on it, and it was my fault.. The car ran into a frame machine and almost ran over the guy taking off the front bumper.. So if you do decide to put one on make sure you put a label under the hood saying it has one or take your remote and just leave them the ign. key just to cover your @ss.. I had to pay out of my pocket the $1500 more dollars worth of damages.. The body shop said it just turned on by itself... OK...
My advice is just be careful.. It dangerous unless it's hooked up right.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
wow that blows...this is in fact a cool mod but im pretty sure ill just keep pushing the pedal.
My advice is just be careful.. It dangerous unless it's hooked up right.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
wow that blows...this is in fact a cool mod but im pretty sure ill just keep pushing the pedal.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Demonis »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dont even put my car in gear when I park it as is... its new, i figure if the ebrake fails, its the manufacturers problem, not mine.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Does Honda advise that the car be placed in gear, and e-brake applied when parked?
Does Honda advise that the car be placed in gear, and e-brake applied when parked?
hmm.. i dont understand on how a remote start will suddenly attempt to run people over??? dont u have to balance the clutch and PRESS THE GAS too, before it starts taking down anything.


