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i wanna learn more stuff on the b16 motor and turbo. i search b16 turbo on the the archives. can anyone point me on more info on the b16 or what to look up. or basic honda engines and turbo's for me thanks.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by E_F_9 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">who said anything about lsvtec</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think he means go wif the LS motor for turbo and that VTEC isn't any good within the higher HP ranges. Not something I would say, but I think that's what he's saying.
I think he means go wif the LS motor for turbo and that VTEC isn't any good within the higher HP ranges. Not something I would say, but I think that's what he's saying.
and who the hell told you that??
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Caoboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LS. vtec is wack in the upper HP ranges.</TD></TR></TABLE>
sorry but that is a dumb comment
try a google search. it heped me to wire, swap a b16 in my car, and how to put together a turbo kit for sheap and what fits best with what motor. look into a google search. it does wonders. especialy when you want to see naked girls?google images that is.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hamstr323 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and who the hell told you that??
sorry but that is a dumb comment</TD></TR></TABLE>
in high horsepower applications, vtec, becomes useless, or not as efficient. just like vvt-i in supra's, they get rid of that function, because actually hinders the cars performance with the adjusted fuel ratio, when the vvt-i or vtec kicks in. cost effective wise, take a b16 and turbo it, or just go with a cheaper b18b, turbo it, or perhaps build it up a little bit with the money you save from not using a b16. besides, b18b has more torque on the bottom end anyways.
if you wish to have vtec and turbo, go with a b18c series, since it puts out more power/torque than a b16.
so yeah, vtec would be pretty much useless if the OP wanted to build up a higher HP application. but hey he wanted opinions right? and he asked about honda engines and turbo in general also right? so i gave my opinion to him.
basic engine would be better to learn on would be an LS or zc or whatever stock motor he has at first anyways.
sorry but that is a dumb comment</TD></TR></TABLE>in high horsepower applications, vtec, becomes useless, or not as efficient. just like vvt-i in supra's, they get rid of that function, because actually hinders the cars performance with the adjusted fuel ratio, when the vvt-i or vtec kicks in. cost effective wise, take a b16 and turbo it, or just go with a cheaper b18b, turbo it, or perhaps build it up a little bit with the money you save from not using a b16. besides, b18b has more torque on the bottom end anyways.

if you wish to have vtec and turbo, go with a b18c series, since it puts out more power/torque than a b16.
so yeah, vtec would be pretty much useless if the OP wanted to build up a higher HP application. but hey he wanted opinions right? and he asked about honda engines and turbo in general also right? so i gave my opinion to him.
basic engine would be better to learn on would be an LS or zc or whatever stock motor he has at first anyways.
hahaha yea all the pro's use ls motors cause b16 & b18c1 or 5's or ls/vtecs suck because they have vtec sure right hahahahaha
next you are going to tell me that an ls head can out flow a b16/type r or gsr head lol
and he ASKED ABOUT A B16! not an ls but you did read the first post right?
Modified by Hamstr323 at 5:38 AM 9/17/2006
next you are going to tell me that an ls head can out flow a b16/type r or gsr head lol
and he ASKED ABOUT A B16! not an ls but you did read the first post right?
Modified by Hamstr323 at 5:38 AM 9/17/2006
i like all the opinions you guys are giving me its all a learning experience. there is something bout the b16 i just liked it. but i want to learn more about it before i rush into it and regret it. so i would like any information yall can provide and yea im still searching the forums for additional information.
thats why the 'pro's use vtec killer cams etc. etc. right? and he still asked about honda motors 'IN GENERAL'
so... costwise, yes, go with an LS or stock motor. convert to b16/b18c series later, you'll already have the turbo kit and already have experience tuning it. cheaper, and still ahve your fun. besides, you can get new LS blocks for like 300 bucks if you look around, yet again, a lot cheaper than a vtec series motor. turn around and LS-vtec it if you want to, STILL cheaper than the b16/b18c series stuff. HAH lololol
so... costwise, yes, go with an LS or stock motor. convert to b16/b18c series later, you'll already have the turbo kit and already have experience tuning it. cheaper, and still ahve your fun. besides, you can get new LS blocks for like 300 bucks if you look around, yet again, a lot cheaper than a vtec series motor. turn around and LS-vtec it if you want to, STILL cheaper than the b16/b18c series stuff. HAH lololol
Well I have a d16z6 motor in my car. I been looking at the hmotors I see b16a is like 500 cheaper for the whole swap.it was priced at 1600 while the ls full swap package was like 2k shurgs.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Caoboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats why the 'pro's use vtec killer cams etc. etc. right? and he still asked about honda motors 'IN GENERAL'
so... cost wise, yes, go with an LS or stock motor. convert to b16/b18c series later, you'll already have the turbo kit and already have experience tuning it. cheaper, and still have your fun. besides, you can get new LS blocks for like 300 bucks if you look around, yet again, a lot cheaper than a vtec series motor. turn around and LS-vtec it if you want to, STILL cheaper than the b16/b18c series stuff. HAH lololol</TD></TR></TABLE>
again you are wrong!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Caoboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats why the 'pro's use vtec killer cams etc. etc. </TD></TR></TABLE>
you do know MOST PRO's don't use vtec killers right??
but if so then list 5 that do?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Caoboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> and he still asked about honda motors 'IN GENERAL'
</TD></TR></TABLE>
his first post stated
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jesselovesngoc »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i wanna learn more stuff on the b16 motor and turbo..</TD></TR></TABLE>
where did he say anything ABOUT ANY OTHER MOTOR!!!!!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Caoboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cost wise, yes, go with an LS or stock motor. convert to b16/b18c series later</TD></TR></TABLE>
how is that save him money if he could just go with a b16 to start with lol
then you say
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Caoboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can get new LS blocks for like 300 bucks if you look around, yet again, a lot cheaper than a vtec series motor. turn around and LS-vtec it if you want to, STILL cheaper than the b16</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol lets see oil pump,oil line kit,new head gasket,plus b series head
hmmm let me think........
you are a funny guy
nice try
thank you for playing.... please come again
so... cost wise, yes, go with an LS or stock motor. convert to b16/b18c series later, you'll already have the turbo kit and already have experience tuning it. cheaper, and still have your fun. besides, you can get new LS blocks for like 300 bucks if you look around, yet again, a lot cheaper than a vtec series motor. turn around and LS-vtec it if you want to, STILL cheaper than the b16/b18c series stuff. HAH lololol</TD></TR></TABLE>again you are wrong!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Caoboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats why the 'pro's use vtec killer cams etc. etc. </TD></TR></TABLE>
you do know MOST PRO's don't use vtec killers right??
but if so then list 5 that do?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Caoboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> and he still asked about honda motors 'IN GENERAL'
</TD></TR></TABLE>his first post stated
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jesselovesngoc »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i wanna learn more stuff on the b16 motor and turbo..</TD></TR></TABLE>
where did he say anything ABOUT ANY OTHER MOTOR!!!!!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Caoboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cost wise, yes, go with an LS or stock motor. convert to b16/b18c series later</TD></TR></TABLE>
how is that save him money if he could just go with a b16 to start with lol
then you say
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Caoboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can get new LS blocks for like 300 bucks if you look around, yet again, a lot cheaper than a vtec series motor. turn around and LS-vtec it if you want to, STILL cheaper than the b16</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol lets see oil pump,oil line kit,new head gasket,plus b series head
hmmm let me think........
you are a funny guy
nice try
thank you for playing.... please come again
why not cr-vtec or b20-vtec??? just kidding. stick with the b16 complete swa[ plan it is well worth the money, i know it doesent sound so impressive to have a kigh14 to mid 15 sec car but once that turbo is on you will be at the 250+ hp if you want. i heard they made up to 350 on a stock b16 and actually kept it for a while. remember. tuning tuning tuning is the key. tune it right and theres your reliability
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