hey wats good just asking some opinions on my build plans see what everyone thinks. ok so the head
ctr intake cam and itr exhaust cam
port an polish
omni power valves,springs,retainers
skunk 2 im
new valve seals
then for the block
arp head bolts
itr pistons
stock rods
block bored out to match the itr pistons
and then a new timing belt and all that stuff so let me know wat u think

 

bumo bump any opinons comments bad good

 

and you point is?

 

Just an opinion but for the same dollar amount that u are gona spend on the itr pistons and installation you could do a b20 block even with stock pistons it would wayyyy out perform the b16 block

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mtownsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey wats good just asking some opinions on my build plans see what everyone thinks. ok so the head
ctr intake cam and itr exhaust cam CTR cams = 98-01 ITR cams
port an polish
omni power valves flat faced?,springs,retainers
skunk 2 im (fine, if you ask me)
new valve seals Not a bad idea
then for the block
arp head bolts
itr pistons (because these came from a block with a higher deck height, they will lower your compression. That's bad.)
stock rods
block bored out to match the itr pistons No need. All B-Series motors except for the B20 have the same bore. 81mm)
and then a new timing belt Duh and all that stuff so let me know wat u think</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

itr pistons were a bad idea

 

if i stuck wit the stock bottom end would that b any better i dont want to do an ls/vtec or b20/vtec cuz thats more than budget
i only got like 2gs to spend

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mtownsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if i stuck wit the stock bottom end would that b any better i dont want to do an ls/vtec or b20/vtec cuz thats more than budget
i only got like 2gs to spend</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not sure what you're asking. Better than what? Better than the ITR pistons in the B16 block? Or better than a LS/VTEC build?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mtownsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if i stuck wit the stock bottom end would that b any better i dont want to do an ls/vtec or b20/vtec cuz thats more than budget
i only got like 2gs to spend</TD></TR></TABLE>

Maybe I got you. Ok, instead of ITR pistons, get CTRs, if you keep the B16.

 

im saying i fully build the head and leave the stock b16 bottom would that be ok or no. and i thought ctr pistons were garbage because there heavy andthere dome is too big it will hit valves/head

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by black_EM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> itr pistons (because these came from a block with a higher deck height, they will lower your compression. That's bad.) </TD></TR></TABLE>


Who the hell told you that???????????? Ahem.....................


WRONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mtownsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im saying i fully build the head and leave the stock b16 bottom would that be ok or no. and i thought ctr pistons were garbage because there heavy andthere dome is too big it will hit valves/head
</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah just leave the block stock then.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRiXZc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Who the hell told you that???????????? Ahem.....................
WRONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG</TD></TR></TABLE>

Try every compression calculator for ITR pistons in a 1.6 block. See what happens

edit: comparing the USDM ITRs to P30s

 

http://www.zealautowerks.com/

Go ahead this one actually takes the piston compression height into the calculation.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRiXZc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


Who the hell told you that???????????? Ahem.....................


WRONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hey look, I'm Mr. Saracasm. I know that. I was just trying to put it in terms he might understand. ******* people, I swear.

Please, oh wise one, explain this to me.

 

What exactly would you like me to explain? The JDM ITR piston has a higher Compression Height (distance from pin to top of piston, not dome) than a B16 P30 piston. Compression is similar to the P30 but slightly higher.

 

i'm almost positive the p30's are higher then the itr's. either way, the p30 is better haha

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by swoyEKr. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'm almost positive the p30's are higher then the itr's. either way, the p30 is better haha</TD></TR></TABLE>

Agreed, P30s and mill the head a bit. And flame travel presents a problem with CTR pistons, but will definitely increase compression. And don't trust any online calculater. During my build, I tested every online calculator I could find and they all figured different results.

 

ok wat if i put a fully built head on a stock b18c1 blockthat would make more torque and bottom end power rite

 

wouldnt he be better off buying a B20 block and slapping his B16 head and trans on it?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRiXZc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What exactly would you like me to explain? The JDM ITR piston has a higher Compression Height (distance from pin to top of piston, not dome) than a B16 P30 piston. Compression is similar to the P30 but slightly higher.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by swoyEKr. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'm almost positive the p30's are higher then the itr's. either way, the p30 is better haha</TD></TR></TABLE>

They are. The dome on ITR is 5.96cc and the dome on P30's is 6.93cc.

 

ok so im gonna pick up a b18c1 out of a 94 gsr $550 for the block, crank, rods , pistons, oil pan and oil pickup u think all that is worth 550

 

hey wats goo i just bought a b17a wit ctr pistons so my ? is i can take the crank.rods,pistons from the b17 and put them in my b16 but im also running omnipower high comp valves will i be alrite wit valve clearance orwat ? iight thankls

 

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