i suck at searching.
how should i keep the damn thing from beating the hell out of the fire wall?
h22 into civic coupe.
i was thinking of a dampen shock thing???
or weld a bar from the frame to a bracket, lol. thing hits the firewall hard.



Modified by THC1107 at 9:17 PM 9/14/2006

 

You answered your own question. Get a better quality set of mounts.

 

you have a front race mount ?

keeps the engine from shifting back and slamming into your firewall and breaking your tps

 

what mount kit are you using???

 

Avid mounts.


the avid mounts are pressed to one side, they dont fit like they should

 

um, i hope your proportioner isn't still on the firewall that's getting "banged" into.

 

Both sets of Avid mounts that I have personally seen are crap. Try some better mounts.

 

I have never had issues with my hasport mounts and they are the first gen

 

yeah, i think im gonna get a credit card and get the hasport axles & mounts, about 1K ouch, gut its gotta de right, cuz this car gets ripped on all day.
do the dampeners help any?
whould welding a chain from frame to center of engine and bolt to the block would be a bad idea?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by THC1107 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whould welding a chain from frame to center of engine and bolt to the block would be a bad idea?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Most likely. Mounts are supposed to flex a small amount for the same reason your H22 header has a flex pipe in, and civics have the spring bolts. Things are supposed to torque and bend, and when there's nowhere to flex, it cracks.

 

I have used HCP and Hasport (1st gen) mounts and never had an issue til I put the skunk2 intake manifold on.

 

Hey, THC1107. I was just cruising around and saw your post. Hope that I could help before you spend money when you don't have to. You said that you have Avid mounts are they the steel one's or billet's? Also does it look like the urethane is wearing down the back mount? If it is this could cuase the motor to rock back to the fire wall. If that is the case just give me a call and I'll get a new set out for you right away. Our toll free is 1-866-507-2843.

 

i dotn know what mounts i have but my hh doesnt moove at all!!!.

the tranny one is welded to the frame if that helps

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eran &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Most likely. Mounts are supposed to flex a small amount for the same reason your H22 header has a flex pipe in, and civics have the spring bolts. Things are supposed to torque and bend, and when there's nowhere to flex, it cracks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The spring bolts act as lock washers. They are just there to keep pressure on the nut as to prevent it from backing off. A flex pipe is a total different concept. The flex pipe lets the engine/exhaust manifold move around without moving the whole exhaust around as the spring bolts aren't made to provide flexibility in the exhaust system.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EX-T &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The spring bolts act as lock washers. They are just there to keep pressure on the nut as to prevent it from backing off. A flex pipe is a total different concept. The flex pipe lets the engine/exhaust manifold move around without moving the whole exhaust around as the spring bolts aren't made to provide flexibility in the exhaust system.</TD></TR></TABLE>

actually they DO allow for flexibility. The shape of the fflange and donut gasket allow for that to occur. typically in civics they have 2 flanges, one before the cat and one before the rear section, with the gaskets and spring bolts. This is to allow the exhaust to flex and not crack under stress. A single flex section allows for a lot moore flex which is why you only see one section rather than 2 in most cars.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by v4lu3s &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually they DO allow for flexibility. The shape of the fflange and donut gasket allow for that to occur. typically in civics they have 2 flanges, one before the cat and one before the rear section, with the gaskets and spring bolts. This is to allow the exhaust to flex and not crack under stress. A single flex section allows for a lot moore flex which is why you only see one section rather than 2 in most cars.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Correct

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by v4lu3s &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

actually they DO allow for flexibility. The shape of the fflange and donut gasket allow for that to occur. typically in civics they have 2 flanges, one before the cat and one before the rear section, with the gaskets and spring bolts. This is to allow the exhaust to flex and not crack under stress. A single flex section allows for a lot moore flex which is why you only see one section rather than 2 in most cars.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Bingo. +1

 

getting back to the OP's problem, i got innovative mounts on my b16 they are freakin awesome, i felt such an improvement. they have a shitload of urethane and are super strong. they provided a lifetime warranty. im not sure if they make h22 mounts so maybe this is irrelevant but apparently they make more applications than hasport, and they apparently cause less cabin vibration than hasport. i got mine for 200 shipped on ebay but again im not sure what the H into civic ones would run, or if they make them.

ok i just checked on passwordjdm.com they got the innovative h series into a EG/DC (i dunno if you even have that car haha) mounts for 389, kindof pricey. but im sure its a good kit, and you can probably find it for cheaper, i didn't find innovative on ebay though, maybe they stopped selling direct im not sure.

 

heres a pic of one of the mounts, the engine seems to only sit this way, i cant twist it back. ?? any ideas?

if i were to buy some hasports... 70A or 88A?




Modified by THC1107 at 9:17 PM 9/14/2006

 

Seems that you have our mount kit from about 3 years ago. We have then switch to billet aluminum mounts now. It looks like the urethane is wearing out. Since that time we have been doing all of urethane in house and it has much improved from previous models. If you could just give me a call at our toll free 866-507-2843 and I'll be able to take care of you. Because our mounts too, come with a lifetime warranty. Hope I have been of service to you. Talk to you soon.

 

kewl, ill give you a call.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YZFR6AVID &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Seems that you have our mount kit from about 3 years ago. We have then switch to billet aluminum mounts now. It looks like the urethane is wearing out. Since that time we have been doing all of urethane in house and it has much improved from previous models. If you could just give me a call at our toll free 866-507-2843 and I'll be able to take care of you. Because our mounts too, come with a lifetime warranty. Hope I have been of service to you. Talk to you soon. </TD></TR></TABLE>

For those who find this in a search...
I was using the wrong rear L bracket. 98. AVID advised me to use the 92-96 bracket.
thanks for the help AVID. ill be in touch to order some better axles soon.

 

Sounds like you got the issue resolved, but I don't think the chain would be a bad idea.

It would do exactly what you want it to, keep the motor from hitting the firewall.

 

nice to see that you got your problem resolved without spending a shitload of cash on new mounts, good job avid. i think it would be 92-95 though, not 96, although i'm guessing you prolly just typed it wrong.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Everyones Hero &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sounds like you got the issue resolved, but I don't think the chain would be a bad idea.

It would do exactly what you want it to, keep the motor from hitting the firewall.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That would be a ghetto fix to a much larger problem that nobody else with that swap is having. He luckly found the correct solution to the problem.