today while messing around with the exhaust on my bike, i had the bright idea to flip the shift linkage over. so hitting down shifts up and kicking up shifts down. i must say that i like it this way much, much better.

it took about 10 minutes to get habitualized to the reversed pattern, but my upshifts are MUCH more positive now, and clutchless downshifting is a breeze.

any one else do this? or, is there any reason i should swap it back (ie, am i going to break something?)

 

What exactly did you do to change that?

If anything it will mess with anyone other than you trying to ride the bike.

 

lol. no you're not going to break anything.

 

MotoGP style FTW! I have several friends who have done this conversion without an issue.

 

Yup, did this on my F4i. I feel it easier to shift through the gears this way.

 

I was under the impression that clutchless downshifts were not good for the bike.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sup gurl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was under the impression that clutchless downshifts were not good for the bike.</TD></TR></TABLE>

They are retarded and absolutely the wrong way to shift a motorcycle.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RebornGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They are retarded and absolutely the wrong way to shift a motorcycle.</TD></TR></TABLE>

just because its easy doesnt mean i do it i just noticed it when i tried to UPshift but accidently went the wrong way

&lt;- has intimate knowledge of how motorcycles shift and therefore has a lot of empathy for the dogs and gear teeth

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AwwsChwA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The damage that clutchless shifting causes is more in the engine and tranny shaft support bearings. Here's why:

Motorcycle transmissions don't actually have synchronizers. The sequential shifting mechanism simply rotates a drum that has notches in it, and those notches are the paths that each shift fork follow when they grab a gear. http://www.howstuffworks.com has a great explanation of this. Anyway...

When you upshift, the engine RPM drops a bit and the bike accelerates. Right? Well, when you downshift, you're suddenly jerking the engine RPM upward which then tries to instantly slow down the gears, chain, rear wheel, etc etc etc... See where this is going? You're putting huge stresses on internal parts that normally aren't there, and you're putting huge loads on shaft bearings, causing premature wear and potential failure.

To sum it all up (for those brave souls who finished reading this post), it's not the act of shifting without a clutch that's bad. It's the huge resulting loads on internal components that cause damage.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RebornGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They are retarded and absolutely the wrong way to shift a motorcycle.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I thought so.

 

motoGP shfit on the the bikes FTW

 

GP shifting = awesome.

i hate riding bikes with standard shift patterns now. Ok, i don't hate it, but it just don't feel right no mo.

 

nothing new about this. People have been doing this for years.

 

i wanna say there was another thread about this a few months back.

i definitely think the upshifts are smoother and feel better but i personally dont like the downshift this way. i wish the bike could just read my mind and downshift when i press down and also upshift when i am thinking about it and push down. best of both worlds.

 

Hmmmm...I might try this on my next bike. We'll see. Sounds interesting.

 

I had GP shift on my bike but changed it back to stock since I couldnt downshift as fast (like to late brake and have a slipper clutch on the R6)

 

I use to have reversed shifting on my Honda Trail 70....It was sweet

 

GP shifting on my RC51. I love it. I've ridden bikes with normal shift pattern now and i don't like it as much. I love upshifting with GP shift. With my sato rear sets and GP shift, shifting feels like butter.

 

I'm changing mine on the Monster when I get home

 

Is GP shifting a new concept to people on this board? it seems like no one really heard of it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .xcalibur. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is GP shifting a new concept to people on this board? it seems like no one really heard of it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've heard of it, never considered doing it until now because everyone seems to like it better.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sup gurl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I've heard of it, never considered doing it until now because everyone seems to like it better. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Not me, I switched to GP style and i was not a fan. Yeah, upshifts were nice, but downshifting quickly was a bummer. It is a total trade-off so its gonna suck either way. I prefer standard shift.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .xcalibur. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is GP shifting a new concept to people on this board? it seems like no one really heard of it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

anybody who's a fan of motorcycle racing has (or should have) heard of it.
i personally cant wait to do it to my bike because it gives you solid upshifts under acceleration. my bike has a tendancy to not want to shift into second and rather go into nuetral when im accelerating quickly unless i have a really solid shift.

 

I like downshifting by pulling up. it seems to match my body's reaction to slowing down better: put more pressure on my heels, which makes it easier to pull up w/ toes. i dunno, maybe that doesn't make any sense.

the one thing that's a little worrisome about GP shifting on an F4i w/ the stock rearsets is that you've got to either remove or alter the front sprocket cover to make clearance for the rod. I pulled mine off because i couldn't think of a good way to cut it, and worry about something getting caught in the front sprocket...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by big pete &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had GP shift on my bike but changed it back to stock since I couldnt downshift as fast (like to late brake and have a slipper clutch on the R6)</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't really like it either, I tend to late brake a lot too...but I don't have a slipper clutch.....you bastard, I want one of those. It just feels more solid bangin it down when downshifting as opposed to bangin it up hehe , that sounds kinda dirty.