i was looking for a head job and i found this site called KMS engine development


there $1000 dollar head job includes

Extreme port job
glass bead
fly cut head
valve job
gasket matched
valves lightend
new radius on valve
extreme reshaping of valves

a race valve job with 5 angle intake and 3 angle exhaust

 

for N/A? HELL NO.

for boost? perhaps if you're trying to get every pony possible, but still not worth $1k IMHO.

 

not a chance, you will most likely regret that in every way.

 

pfff! Save your money & buy my car... lol.

 

If you want a serious answer no its not worth $1k.

Buy a better flowing head such as an H23a head or possibly an H22a head if you really wanna go all out.

If your going FI, I would recomend the H23a head though for tuneability reasons.

 

the thing is, every mechanic is different and some is better than other.

when talking about valve job/head port unless you know the dude does great work, it's almost risky to have some monkey port your ****.

the NA gain is minium, throw the grand into turbo fund and let the fun begin

 

Do head swaps make any difference?

How much could i get a H22a or H23a head with wiring harness and computer?

 

where is this place, is it in NJ. by the way that is a shitload of $ for not that much power.

 

Ahh you could do a head swap or motor swap...I got like 1000 in a jdm f22b swap with i/h/e and about to get a chipped p06 and i'll be smoking your f22 with headwork...lol!!or you could take that grand and go turbo.

 

Do a head swap and then boost. You will get more out of the tubo if the engine can breath more.

 

hey I did a 30ths mill and a 3 angle valve cut with a radius on the valves a glass beading is just to clean it for only 200 but do wat you want but we advise against it for that price you can do alot more then 20-25 hp gain for only a g throw in lsd and squeeze a 150 shot nos

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlUAc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey I did a 30ths mill and a 3 angle valve cut with a radius on the valves a glass beading is just to clean it for only 200 but do wat you want but we advise against it for that price you can do alot more then 20-25 hp gain for only a g throw in lsd and squeeze a 150 shot nos</TD></TR></TABLE>

LMAO - yea what he said

 

The OP's speaking of King Motorsports no? I've got to thread jack this one... How about a service such as PortFlow's PnP with valve job, deshrouding, polishing chambers, surface deck, new seals, TI dual valve springs, TI retainters, bronze valve guides, TI valves, inspection and assembly for a boosted SOHC VTEC? Worth the $1716?

 

Why bother.. Just get your self a lambo and call it a day

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by patastinky &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why bother.. Just get your self a lambo and call it a day </TD></TR></TABLE>

Are you always this helpful, or are you making a special effort today? What ever response you were aiming for, you missed. Please restrain yourself from making any more superficial comments. Does anyone else have any educated guidance on this topic?

 

Again I have to say no. Upgrade the entire head first, then do the said work on the new Better head. Your gains will be much larger.

 

Alright, can you elaborate on the 'entire head'?

 

h22/h23 head swap bro check out the faq thread swap the h22 or h23 head PnP the head and mill it and 3 angle valve cut will be under a g if you call around different shops

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AFAccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Alright, can you elaborate on the 'entire head'? </TD></TR></TABLE>

valves, dual springs, titanium retainers, cams

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AFAccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The OP's speaking of King Motorsports no? I've got to thread jack this one... How about a service such as PortFlow's PnP with valve job, deshrouding, polishing chambers, surface deck, new seals, TI dual valve springs, TI retainters, bronze valve guides, TI valves, inspection and assembly for a boosted SOHC VTEC? Worth the $1716? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm guessing these guys are not familiar with Good cylinder head service. That is a pretty decent price for the services offered. I would like anybody to link this guy to a "known good" head porter like Port flow for under a grand.

 

We aren't doubting the cost or value of the job, we are saying he shouldn't spend that kind of money on that head. He can head swap and achieve better gains and better results if he spends that money on the NEW head.

 

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Correct, though I believe the purpose of this post was to debate the potential benefit of the headwork itself, dealing with whatever head most of the users here already posess. Additionally, I think cb7-R has a good idea of why I originally posted here. It's a proven fact that in the world of porting, there can be a night and day difference - gain or loss - in results between two different methods. I would not argue with PortFlow's reputation, much less the accomplishments their services have provided.

In this thread, price is of concern, and will determine whether a given person deems a 'head job' worth it. In my opinion, price should be subjective, and the the quality of the service itself should play a much larger role in determining whether this is worth your consideration.

Basically, if the price of a job well done is too much for your needs/budget, then I would look elsewhere before compromising on quality. If this is the case, then...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MadCityLude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">he shouldn't spend that kind of money on that head. He can head swap and achieve better gains and better results if he spends that money on the NEW head. </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MadCityLude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We aren't doubting the cost or value of the job, we are saying he shouldn't spend that kind of money on that head. He can head swap and achieve better gains and better results if he spends that money on the NEW head.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is true. The F22xx engines arent particularly a good starting point for an all motor build(despite Bisimoto)

 

Seems quite expensive.

 

If your going all motor or turbo i would get a h22 head,you can find a used h22 head for $300-500 then spend another few dollars swapping it in there,and the h22 head will flow more cfm then your 1k f22 head depending on porter.dont spend 1grand on a f22 head.