how are the obx or other ebay camber kits compared to ingalls?
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IMO - your suspension is one area that you need to be real careful about going cheap on. It one of those fails your very likely to wreck, and of you get lucky don't you are definitely going to screw your car real good.
If I was to be able to wee them in person and examine there quality before purchasing then it would be a different story. OBX may be alright. But you never know with something like that.
If I was to be able to wee them in person and examine there quality before purchasing then it would be a different story. OBX may be alright. But you never know with something like that.
I'm with Madcity, go knockoff in your seats or a shift **** just something that isnt going to send you flying into a tree doing 80 on the freeway if it fails. As for OBX, your taking your risks even moreso because their track record for making quality products isnt all that. I wouldn't do it myself and im a cheap ****..
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Thats kinda what I was saying with OBX. They do make a decent part sometimes , but then I think there quality inspection process is real weak and they end up letting some real junk go out the door. So it is a risk. Me I would rather burn up my tires till I could buy ingalls.
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No offense, but that's a bad advice...
No offense, but that's a bad advice...
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I was thinkin' the exact same thing.
I was thinkin' the exact same thing.
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cheap camber kits are a no-no.
i had a cheap ebay setup a long long time ago and took the car to an a/x the next day. everything was fine until i sheared the bolts in the right rear in 5 runs or so and had my rear wheel doing all sorts of stupid ****.
camber kits tend to be very high-load parts of the suspension, so it's important to use good materials. ebay parts generally don't.
i had a cheap ebay setup a long long time ago and took the car to an a/x the next day. everything was fine until i sheared the bolts in the right rear in 5 runs or so and had my rear wheel doing all sorts of stupid ****.
camber kits tend to be very high-load parts of the suspension, so it's important to use good materials. ebay parts generally don't.
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I decided to go the OBX way temporarily just to test it out. Front camber kit install. As soon as the car was on the ground, it just didn't feel right. I drove very conservatively for about a week; nothing over 40 mph, no hard turns, avoided all bumps. The thing still broke. I had to brake hard from 30 mph to zero to avoid a deer and SNAP! I ended up having to be towed home. Imagine what would've happened if I had been on the highway messing around with my buddies. Disaster. Don't skimp on suspension parts. More $ equals quality, reliability, SAFETY.
Never really thought about having your seats fail but i guess that would suck if you were hauling *** and your seat broke you would lay down or fly into the back seat.. needless to say that would be bad.. but probably not as bad as doing 80 and having your camber adjustment sheer apart in a turn..
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You can't really say one would be worse than the other. All aspects of safety are equally important and should be taken seriously. Period.
When it comes to safety, there are no shortcuts or cheap alternatives.
I got rear-ended a few years ago, my OEM seat broke and I ended up, just like you said, on the back seat. My back and my neck never fully recovered.
And that's an OEM Recaro made seat. I did get hit pretty hard tho, the guy was going about 60 and I wasn't even moving...
Now imagine what the quality and safety of generic Ebay seats would be.
If you see a brand new seat going for about $100 on ebay, you don't need an expert to tell you that the quality is poor. Same goes for all other generic parts (with a few exceptions here and there). But you definitely don't want to be cheap on parts that have anything to do with safety. Change parts only if that change will bring an improvement. Going from decent OEM seats to some cheap generic seats is a downgrade and an unecessary increase of risk of serious injury in case of an accident. That's how I see it.
Imagine if you only used ebay parts on your car; cheap suspension, brakes, seats, cheap tires,etc.
I can already picture the following scenario:
Rollin doWn tEh wfy, hitTin V-t3ck, when all of a sudden someone cuts you off.
You brake but your cheap brakes ain't stoppin the beast and your cheap tires ain't providing much traction. BOOM you hit the car in front of you.
Due to the "funny angle" and sun reflection, the driver behind you doesn't notice the brake lights going off on your mAd tite "carbon style" aLt3zZa tail-lights, and
BOOM, he plows right into you. Your generic ebay seat breaks upon the impact and you fly out the rear window...
You can't really say one would be worse than the other. All aspects of safety are equally important and should be taken seriously. Period.
When it comes to safety, there are no shortcuts or cheap alternatives.
I got rear-ended a few years ago, my OEM seat broke and I ended up, just like you said, on the back seat. My back and my neck never fully recovered.
And that's an OEM Recaro made seat. I did get hit pretty hard tho, the guy was going about 60 and I wasn't even moving...
Now imagine what the quality and safety of generic Ebay seats would be.
If you see a brand new seat going for about $100 on ebay, you don't need an expert to tell you that the quality is poor. Same goes for all other generic parts (with a few exceptions here and there). But you definitely don't want to be cheap on parts that have anything to do with safety. Change parts only if that change will bring an improvement. Going from decent OEM seats to some cheap generic seats is a downgrade and an unecessary increase of risk of serious injury in case of an accident. That's how I see it.
Imagine if you only used ebay parts on your car; cheap suspension, brakes, seats, cheap tires,etc.
I can already picture the following scenario:
Rollin doWn tEh wfy, hitTin V-t3ck, when all of a sudden someone cuts you off.
You brake but your cheap brakes ain't stoppin the beast and your cheap tires ain't providing much traction. BOOM you hit the car in front of you.
Due to the "funny angle" and sun reflection, the driver behind you doesn't notice the brake lights going off on your mAd tite "carbon style" aLt3zZa tail-lights, and
BOOM, he plows right into you. Your generic ebay seat breaks upon the impact and you fly out the rear window...
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I agree with the statement almost completely. But don't assume just cause something cost a little more that it is better.
ALWAYS do your research. Read and ask questions. Find out what brands of products are reliable. Avoid spontaneous purchases at all costs. Make sure you know exactly what your buying.
I agree with the statement almost completely. But don't assume just cause something cost a little more that it is better.
ALWAYS do your research. Read and ask questions. Find out what brands of products are reliable. Avoid spontaneous purchases at all costs. Make sure you know exactly what your buying.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MadCityLude »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agree with the statement almost completely. But don't assume just cause something cost a little more that it is better.
ALWAYS do your research. Read and ask questions. Find out what brands of products are reliable. Avoid spontaneous purchases at all costs. Make sure you know exactly what your buying.
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ALWAYS do your research. Read and ask questions. Find out what brands of products are reliable. Avoid spontaneous purchases at all costs. Make sure you know exactly what your buying.
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agreed then again in this case ingalls would be the best way to go and would be the most costly (i believe). On their website they run for about $150 a kit, meaning you would need one for each wheel.
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Actually a prelude should only need a rear kit. The front has alot of adjustability. At least at a normal ride height. If you SLAM the car and tuck the wheels you may need both.
And I am pretty sure the kit means for the entire front or entire rear. Or possibly the entire car.
And I am pretty sure the kit means for the entire front or entire rear. Or possibly the entire car.
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well, don't really know about that but i have a verry low setup on my 4th gen with D2 coilovers and 17" wheels + 215/40 tires and my tires are 6-8mm to rub the fenders and when i got my car for aligment the guy told me that being too low i was needed a front camber kit cos the stock ftont camber could only be adjusted to -1.3 degree . The rear tho was more adjustable and it was going to 0 with no problem.
Never got a camber kit tho cos i love the way the front tires grip with that camber setup
well, don't really know about that but i have a verry low setup on my 4th gen with D2 coilovers and 17" wheels + 215/40 tires and my tires are 6-8mm to rub the fenders and when i got my car for aligment the guy told me that being too low i was needed a front camber kit cos the stock ftont camber could only be adjusted to -1.3 degree . The rear tho was more adjustable and it was going to 0 with no problem.
Never got a camber kit tho cos i love the way the front tires grip with that camber setup
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