I drove my friend ek with JDM ITR motor and his shifting is shorter than mine, I have a GSR, but I thought it should be the same, is it because if the shift linkage, if not what makes them shorter, is the type r shift linkage a good upgrade, and what can I do to make my shifting much firmer and feel better, right now, I always have a hard time getting into first gear, should I change some burshings, if what?, any comments are welcome

 

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Do you want a short shifter for quicker and smaller shifts? You can replace the bushing set and it should help the shifter stay in place rather then flop around while in gear

 

thanks for the reply, but i just want to know is there a different on the JDM Type R Shiftlinkage compare to the GSR one, and is the shift linkage that make the shifting shorter? so is short shifter the shift linkage?

 

A short shifter is the shift lever itself.

 

so is the JDM ITR shift lever different than the GSR shift lever?

 

It is all the same. Other than the color. The JDM ITR is bronze/gold.

 

Yes, thats what I have been hearing, that ITR shift linkages are the same as GSR's, but just dont' get why my friends shifting is shorter than mine,

 

Are LS/GSR/ITR shift linkages the same weight and stiffness?

 

from what i've heard it's all about the shifter itself. after research what i've gotten out of it was that any 94+ shift linkage will do you good. when i switched mine, there was a difference in just how it looked. the bar that's actually doing the shifting (don't know what it's called) was a whole lot beefer than my stock da one. and then once i got that in with my stock shifter not much of a big difference, but it felt more stable. as time went on i couldn't find a gsr or type r shifter so i bought a b&m dual bend with es bushings. and there's a big difference.

i have friends that have da's too and one just has a short shifter and one just has a gsr shifter. after driving their cars, without the shift linkage, it just doesn't give me that insurance of my shifts. i know it's a hella weird way to say it, but someone can back me up. hopefully

 

I just looked up the part #'s and they're all the same for DC's except for ITR.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by trkd_out &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">from what i've heard it's all about the shifter itself. after research what i've gotten out of it was that any 94+ shift linkage will do you good. when i switched mine, there was a difference in just how it looked. the bar that's actually doing the shifting (don't know what it's called) was a whole lot beefer than my stock da one. and then once i got that in with my stock shifter not much of a big difference, but it felt more stable. as time went on i couldn't find a gsr or type r shifter so i bought a b&m dual bend with es bushings. and there's a big difference.

i have friends that have da's too and one just has a short shifter and one just has a gsr shifter. after driving their cars, without the shift linkage, it just doesn't give me that insurance of my shifts. i know it's a hella weird way to say it, but someone can back me up. hopefully</TD></TR></TABLE>

DA's are getting up in age, and the actual hinge joint in the shift rod near the tranny can develope quite a bit of play in it. I have a DA also, and I will be purchasing a newer 94-up shift rod because mine has play in the joint near the bitch pin. The DA has different part numbers than the DC's for both the shift rod and shift lever (shifter). And the ITR has different part #'s than the DC's for both also.

Purely by looking at the diagrams, the DA shifter has a slight bend in the shifter compared to the newer duel bends of the DC and ITR shifters. So the newer style shifter should bring the shift **** closer to the driver. The DA's shift rod also appears to be narrower looking at the diagram, not as beefy as the DC's and the ITR's shift rod.

Just by looking at the parts diagram, the DC and ITR shift levers appear to have a longer space between the ball of the shifter and the end that connects to the shift rod. This would make the DA's shift's alittle longer compared to the DC's and ITR's. I know this isn't real world experience, just looking at parts diagrams.

I have heard that the ITR's parts numbers are different because they are coated with some kind of goldish looking material, but that the actual demensions are the same (?).

I have a DA, with the B&M SS and bushings, but the shift rod has alot of play at the joint near the bitch pin. You can check for this play by getting under your car and twisting the shift rod back and forth and looking at the joint near the tranny, mine has a ton of play (300K miles). So this translates to alot of play at the shifter from side to side before it actually moves the rod in the tranny. I am going to buy the newer 94 up shift rod because it is the same price but looks beefier.

 

gsr has longer gears which is why the itr shifts quicker.. shifter just lessin the throw distance.. and it prolly has fresher bushings..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sam92Teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

DA's are getting up in age, and the actual hinge joint in the shift rod near the tranny can develope quite a bit of play in it. I have a DA also, and I will be purchasing a newer 94-up shift rod because mine has play in the joint near the bitch pin. The DA has different part numbers than the DC's for both the shift rod and shift lever (shifter). And the ITR has different part #'s than the DC's for both also.

Purely by looking at the diagrams, the DA shifter has a slight bend in the shifter compared to the newer duel bends of the DC and ITR shifters. So the newer style shifter should bring the shift **** closer to the driver. The DA's shift rod also appears to be narrower looking at the diagram, not as beefy as the DC's and the ITR's shift rod.

Just by looking at the parts diagram, the DC and ITR shift levers appear to have a longer space between the ball of the shifter and the end that connects to the shift rod. This would make the DA's shift's alittle longer compared to the DC's and ITR's. I know this isn't real world experience, just looking at parts diagrams.

I have heard that the ITR's parts numbers are different because they are coated with some kind of goldish looking material, but that the actual demensions are the same (?).

I have a DA, with the B&M SS and bushings, but the shift rod has alot of play at the joint near the bitch pin. You can check for this play by getting under your car and twisting the shift rod back and forth and looking at the joint near the tranny, mine has a ton of play (300K miles). So this translates to alot of play at the shifter from side to side before it actually moves the rod in the tranny. I am going to buy the newer 94 up shift rod because it is the same price but looks beefier.</TD></TR></TABLE>


yeah that was another reason why i got it, because i had a lot of play, i remember of two times when i was trying to down from 5th to 4th, and i ended up in 2nd but every since i changed it, i haven't had problems.