Okay so the time has come to dyno very shortly and I just want to see what you all think about my setup. When I bought the car the head was supposedly ported and it seems the guy was just lying. If it has a port on it, it is very mild.

1834cc 12.6:1 GSR
Skunk2 Pro2's, IM, Cam Gears
68mm Throttle Body
AEM Short Ram w/Velocity Stack
60mm Apexi Exhaust, Custom 4-1 Header (comparable to usdm dc-sports)
Tuned by neptune

Do you guys think I'm overcamming the motor by alot? One day I would like to have an 85*89 setup with a fully ported head but that is a long ways away!

 

no but the header isnt going to help

 

yea, so i saw that movie crank and i was not at all impressed. it had its moments.

 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by black99x &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Okay so the time has come to dyno very shortly and I just want to see what you all think about my setup. When I bought the car the head was supposedly ported and it seems the guy was just lying. If it has a port on it, it is very mild.

1834cc 12.6:1 GSR
Skunk2 Pro2's, IM, Cam Gears
68mm Throttle Body
AEM Short Ram w/Velocity Stack
60mm Apexi Exhaust, Custom 4-1 Header (comparable to usdm dc-sports)
Tuned by neptune

Do you guys think I'm overcamming the motor by alot? One day I would like to have an 85*89 setup with a fully ported head but that is a long ways away!</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

man.... dude lighten up.... first its a lil early to be that pissed off.... and 2nd thats another reason why sometimes this is called hater-tech.... the dude asked for help... not for you bitch *** replies... and why take the effort out of your day.. if you dont like the post... not reply....

 

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hello. i'd like to introduce you to my little friend, the period. "."&lt;--- it takes one of these little guys to end a sentence. its ok, i dont blame you. i blame public schools.

maybe, just maybe, im tired of this forum being inundated with with idiotic bench racers posting the same old cliche posts, i.e.

1. how much hp will my motor make?
2. um, do you think i should turbo or go all motor? (asking that in the allmotor forum)

if you read the rules (the sticky up there) youll see that threads like these are prohibited. maybe give it a gander sometime, chief. and sure, i take the time out of my day to do it because i get payed to sit here and do so.

 

Look, i've read the rules, and he didnt ask how much horspower or if he was going almotor or turbo. All he assked was if he was overcammed. I said no. You came in with a retarded post that made no sense. Ive seen many of the posts you are talking about, save the smart *** **** for them... not this one.

 

just wondering was your last screen name banned? just curious. https://honda-tech.com/zero...33206

and im not a mod but i dont see anything wrong with this particular thread. i think pulling up quotes from other threads is a bit much. if you dont like a thread theres a button right underneath the avatar so that you can report it to a moderator. you being the super smart HT guy im sure already knows that though

leave the police work to the mods, you dont like something just report it.

 

Grow up man- The question in now way "breaks" the rules of this forum. The question is an edjucated one and I have put thought into my setup. You really are just wasting your time being a dumb *** because your response in no way will affect me!

 

keep the negativity elsewhere or simply move on because i haven't banned anyone in a while. seriously...chill out. Its a technical post regarding where he might add or change things within the setup.

So SaturdayNightWrist this is a formal warning

 

Over/Under camming really depends where you want the bulk of power in the powerband.

 

^^ So what's the motor's intended use?

For port work, it might just have a gasket match PnP done to it.

 

S2 Pro1 will work better for your set up. Pro2's work better with in a 2L with 13:1+ CR, and other supporting mods.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PURE Tuning &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">S2 Pro1 will work better for your set up. Pro2's work better with in a 2L with 13:1+ CR, and other supporting mods.</TD></TR></TABLE>
and what about pro 3's? good for a 2.????? 15+ cr engine???

 

I've heard this many time but by the dyno comparisons I have seen it always seems like the pro2 is the better choice- I know I saw a ITR Dyno where they had skunk2 s2 vs pro1 vs pro2 and the pro2 seemed to be a better car all around for the setup which I dont this was very extreme. One thing I need to know about the skunk2 pro2's is - Do you need to upgrade rocker arms?

 

After 6000 miles, I had an issue with one of my Pro2+'s, which resulted in me tearing them out.

During that week, I took a look at my rocker pads. They looked a little "mirrored," but no major scarring.

 

How long have you been running on the stock rocker arms now? Any problems? Mind if I as what problem you had?

 

I've been running the same rocker arms for like, 80k miles.

Alot of those have had either the Skunk2 Stage 1's, or Skunk2 Pro2+'s.

The 'issue' I had was one of the exhaust camshafts snapped at the cam gear one morning driving to school.

 

Wow that is one BIG issue! Thanks for all the great info! I just ordered a velocity stack in hopes to make a little more power! If I break 195whp I will be VERY happy.

 

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I would use Pro3's on motors over 14:1 CR and 2.0+ L.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by black99x &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've heard this many time but by the dyno comparisons I have seen it always seems like the pro2 is the better choice- I know I saw a ITR Dyno where they had skunk2 s2 vs pro1 vs pro2 and the pro2 seemed to be a better car all around for the setup which I dont this was very extreme. One thing I need to know about the skunk2 pro2's is - Do you need to upgrade rocker arms? </TD></TR></TABLE>

We have done and seen many dyno's also, I would recomend staying with the Pro2's and upgrading the head, raising the CR, and upgrading other bolt on's to make them work better. Here is a link to a graph of what Pro2's are capable of in a B20/vtec set up.
https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=5

You should not have a rocker arm issues as long as you valvetrain is set properly, i.e installed seat pressure, open seat pressure, coil bind and retainer to rocker arm clearence, etc.

 

I was looking at your site and it seems you do very nice work! Which stage head port would you recommend for me? I still need a few key components such as a good header, port work etc-.... I really don't think I will go higher then 12.6:1 on this car because it is a full street car and may see the track 4-5 times a year! My ultimate goal is really somewhere around 230whp- I know I will not get that with what I have now but we will see about the port work/header.