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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 11:48 AM
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Default Buddy Club Spec III+ Powered B16

Finally able to hit up the dyno to do some tunning. The set up and graph:

2000 Civic Si
B16a2
Buddy Club Spec III+
Buddy Club Cam Gears
Omni Power Dual Valve Springs and Retainers
AEBS Intake Manifold
65mm Ported TB
Aem CAI
Greddy Header with Collector Mod
Resonated Test Pipe
Greddy EVO Exhaust
Tuned with Crome Free 1.2 by Me.



Was able to fix big dips in HP and TQ with tunning. In some areas Over 20whp was gained. Cam Gears set to 0, +2

Final Numbers 170whp 111TQ.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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Very nice
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 12:31 PM
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very nice graph, torque is board flat...hell almost looks as if you could of reved it out a little more.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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definatly looks good. nice setup
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97L-esVeeTeg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">very nice graph, torque is board flat...hell almost looks as if you could of reved it out a little more. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks, I tried reving all the way to 9k but then just didnt make any more hp. Im surprised it made power all the way to 8500. Everyone always says the buddy club spec III's only really make power to 8k.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 02:54 PM
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nice tune.

BC3+ are no joke.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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nice, wish i had stock in BC, they seem to be selling alot of these cams
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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ANOTHER nice dyno for bc 3+ cams.....good job, nice build
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 06:43 PM
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Seems like we're seeing allot of dynos with the 3+ making power to 8,500.....boy was I under the wrong impression!
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JCushing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nice, wish i had stock in BC, they seem to be selling alot of these cams</TD></TR></TABLE>

It has 1 too many lobes for you.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 11:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ultimatehonda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Finally able to hit up the dyno to do some tunning. The set up and graph:

2000 Civic Si
B16a2
Buddy Club Spec III+
Buddy Club Cam Gears
Omni Power Dual Valve Springs and Retainers
AEBS Intake Manifold
65mm Ported TB
Aem CAI
Greddy Header with Collector Mod
Resonated Test Pipe
Greddy EVO Exhaust
Tuned with Crome Free 1.2 by Me.

Was able to fix big dips in HP and TQ with tunning. In some areas Over 20whp was gained. Cam Gears set to 0, +2

Final Numbers 170whp 111TQ.
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your on stock compression, 10.2~4:1, ??
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 12:26 AM
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nice numbers. we have almost the exact mods. im hoping to put down that much.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 01:47 AM
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can i ask for t.b pictures
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 10:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by salman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

your on stock compression, 10.2~4:1, ??</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes I am on stock compression....10.2.1

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by salman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">can i ask for t.b pictures
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Yes I have some but at home....I will post them up later tonight.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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looks good how much timing did u add, and looks like ur running a lil lean towards the end
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mr_ducksauce &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ANOTHER nice dyno for bc 3+ cams.....good job, nice build</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 04:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoBo Racing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">looks good how much timing did u add, and looks like ur running a lil lean towards the end </TD></TR></TABLE>

Timming was added as needed. If you look at the end of the graph it says 13.38, Thats relativly stoichometric considering its a naturally aspirated engine.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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As requested for the TB pictures:



Props to Max bore on the board....Great job and service
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 05:10 PM
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nice numbers! you put down 10 more whp and 8 more wtq then I did on a similar setup. And i am thinkin it had a lot to do with cam gears. I cant wait till mine come in... how did you go about setting the cam timing?
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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What was your setup? I actually went by omni power's cam timming that he found to be the best for those cams on his motor when he had dynoed them a few years back. I set it and once I got to the dyno saw the numbers I was putting down so decided to leave it be. I don't think I could have extracted anymore power from this set up....
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 05:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ultimatehonda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Thats relativly stoichometric considering its a naturally aspirated engine. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Stoich is stoich regardless if its naturally aspirated or forced induction. The only way stoich varies is if the fuel varies. I think what you wanted to say was thats where the motor made the best peak power. If you run stoich mixtures that high up, your in for some trouble.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 06:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ultimatehonda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What was your setup? I actually went by omni power's cam timming that he found to be the best for those cams on his motor when he had dynoed them a few years back. I set it and once I got to the dyno saw the numbers I was putting down so decided to leave it be. I don't think I could have extracted anymore power from this set up....</TD></TR></TABLE>


hmm so intake 0 exhaust +2?
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clean rice &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Seems like we're seeing allot of dynos with the 3+ making power to 8,500.....boy was I under the wrong impression!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, I'm seeing this also, but I would swear they must be BC4s. That no drop off in power seems alot like BC4 not BC3+s. Anyway nice numbers, again.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mar778c &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yeah, I'm seeing this also, but I would swear they must be BC4s. That no drop off in power seems alot like BC4 not BC3+s. Anyway nice numbers, again.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Right after 8600 the power drops off. I dynoed to 9 in some runs to see where it made power till. The power is good through out the band, but I think BC4's would just be way to big for the compression I have.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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Looks pretty good. What did you end up for cam timing ?
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