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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 07:47 AM
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new alternator and alternator belt about 1 month old, on the freeway home my alternator belt must of snapped when i was shifting at 9k, on my chipped ecu gsr, so i got home, went to damn honda bought a new alternatnor belt, i put one on before this one and no screeching/whining, but now when i put this one on im hearing screeching/whining, too tight or loose? need to lube/oil it?, i took the belt off after and no sound whatsoever when i started the car, could the alternator have gone bad that quick?
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 07:55 AM
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dont use any lube-oil.. if its too tight or loose is will make sounds. when its perfect, no sounds and it b A-ok
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 07:56 AM
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High revs are REALLY bad for alternators. (at least they used to be) The windings inside can literally get thrown apart at high rpms. I have never seen one go bad in a month though. if you spin the alternator by hand so you get any noise?
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 07:57 AM
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could of possible damaged the alternator pulley? i'm going to search but there is a measurement on how much play is needed for adjusting the belt. and why where you shifting a 9K on the highway?
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 08:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LowSlow93Sol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">High revs are REALLY bad for alternators. (at least they used to be) The windings inside can literally get thrown apart at high rpms. I have never seen one go bad in a month though. if you spin the alternator by hand so you get any noise?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The pulley is very secure doesnt move or wiggle, ill try spinning it, but i did get this alternator new from autozone. ...good thing they have a lifetime warranty on it!, but still its a time consuming and a pain to remove and install when you do it by yourself
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 08:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by philosofy1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">could of possible damaged the alternator pulley? i'm going to search but there is a measurement on how much play is needed for adjusting the belt. and why where you shifting a 9K on the highway? </TD></TR></TABLE>

haha, i was showing my friend in the passenger seat, how he's missing out on a b-series motor(GSR), I was owning the freeway when the alternator belt must of snapped off during that ordeal, ...i was cruising 5th, down shifted to 4th then into 3rd and took it to about 9000-91000 shifted and chirped into 4th, then cruised at normal speeds right after.
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 08:13 AM
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what brand alternator is it?
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 08:16 AM
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Duralast from Autozone, brand new , needed one desperately at the time cause i needed transportation and OEM was around $400 at the dealership!
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 08:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egg6vtak &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

haha, i was showing my friend in the passenger seat, how he's missing out on a b-series motor(GSR), I was owning the freeway when the alternator belt must of snapped off during that ordeal, ...i was cruising 5th, down shifted to 4th then into 3rd and took it to about 9000-91000 shifted and chirped into 4th, then cruised at normal speeds right after. </TD></TR></TABLE>

that's kind of funny(no offense), as your telling your friend, all of a sudden POP!
LOL!

i can't seem to find my repair manual, but if you can get your hands on one, it'll show you how much play is needed for the belt.
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 08:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by philosofy1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

that's kind of funny(no offense), as your telling your friend, all of a sudden POP!
LOL!

i can't seem to find my repair manual, but if you can get your hands on one, it'll show you how much play is needed for the belt. </TD></TR></TABLE>


lol, it was for the moment, till i realized that, DAMN i gotta do this again..haha but yah i had to show him how dohc vtec feels and sounds compared to his d16y8 ej coupe.
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 08:27 AM
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well i don't know if your alternator is the problem or not but i know from past experience that duralast is not "built to last" go back and exchange it for a AC Delco. will cost you a little more but will be well worth it in the long run. you can go to advance and get a free alternator test.
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 08:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95jeremie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i don't know if your alternator is the problem or not but i know from past experience that duralast is not "built to last" go back and exchange it for a AC Delco. will cost you a little more but will be well worth it in the long run. you can go to advance and get a free alternator test.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Im in the west coast, unfortunately there isnt any Advance autoparts , which is what i wish they had out here!, has to do something with either the belt or alt. cause when i took it off and started the car, no problems with noises.
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 08:46 AM
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is the pulley wobbling at all? check at auto zone and see if they do alternator test. most auto parts stores have a battery tester that they will role out to your car to test the battery... there should be an alternator tester in that same machine. if not take the alternator off and bring it to them (someone) to test it "off the car". as far as tightening the belt... trial and error tighten it up and drive it.... too loose tighten it up more. did you get your belt from auto-zone as well? there belts tend to stretch because they use a recycled material. bottom line... auto-zone sucks
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 08:52 AM
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tell your friend to sell me his d16 when he decides to get a dohc vtec
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 08:52 AM
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he can e-mail me at nisssmo@sbcglobal.net
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 09:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95jeremie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is the pulley wobbling at all? check at auto zone and see if they do alternator test. most auto parts stores have a battery tester that they will role out to your car to test the battery... there should be an alternator tester in that same machine. if not take the alternator off and bring it to them (someone) to test it "off the car". as far as tightening the belt... trial and error tighten it up and drive it.... too loose tighten it up more. did you get your belt from auto-zone as well? there belts tend to stretch because they use a recycled material. bottom line... auto-zone sucks
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pulley on the alternator is secure, doesnt wobble at all, i rev'd it a bit and sound got louder, so it was just irritating to the ear, so i turned the car off, it got quieter as the idle went down but got louder when i depressed the gas pedal. The first belt was from autozone which i bought new with the alternator, the belt i put on now is OEM, i drove to the Acura dealership which is like 5-7 mins away.
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 09:13 AM
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haha, thats not till next year bro..lol, but him being in my car is giving him second thoughts on how soon he wants one.
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 10:05 AM
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autozone checks your alternator for free, and they sell gatorback belts which are ftw
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egg6vtak &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">new alternator and alternator belt about 1 month old, on the freeway home my alternator belt must of snapped when i was shifting at 9k, on my chipped ecu gsr, so i got home, went to damn honda bought a new alternatnor belt, i put one on before this one and no screeching/whining, but now when i put this one on im hearing screeching/whining, too tight or loose? need to lube/oil it?, i took the belt off after and no sound whatsoever when i started the car, could the alternator have gone bad that quick? </TD></TR></TABLE>

thats what you get for driving like an idiot on the freeway and trying to show off. and what are you doing taking your engine up to 9k??? you probably fried your alternator. i got a b series alternator but its obd2 make me an offer if your intrested...
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 11:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jadugartir &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">autozone checks your alternator for free, and they sell gatorback belts which are ftw</TD></TR></TABLE>

do they check it with the alternator in the car, or take the alt out and bring it there, how would they determine if the alternator is shot is there a certain voltage range it should be at or shouldnt be at? thanks.

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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 11:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EGwhat!!! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

thats what you get for driving like an idiot on the freeway and trying to show off. and what are you doing taking your engine up to 9k??? you probably fried your alternator. i got a b series alternator but its obd2 make me an offer if your intrested...</TD></TR></TABLE>

yah not helpful at all, but anyway is there an aftermarket alternator out there, i assumed oem or close to oem would be strong enough for that type of use.
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 04:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egg6vtak &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yah not helpful at all, but anyway is there an aftermarket alternator out there, i assumed oem or close to oem would be strong enough for that type of use.</TD></TR></TABLE>

there are alternators designed to rev higher (high output) but they cost.
you just got it right?
just take it back and tell them it don't work. there should be a warranty on it
just don't tell them that you took it to 9k
if i was you i would try to get them to let you upgrade to a better one and just pay the difference
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 05:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95jeremie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

there are alternators designed to rev higher (high output) but they cost.
you just got it right?
just take it back and tell them it don't work. there should be a warranty on it
just don't tell them that you took it to 9k
if i was you i would try to get them to let you upgrade to a better one and just pay the difference</TD></TR></TABLE>

just took it to autozone, they tested it, and it passed!, wtf, and they ran it no sound, so we discussed it for about 5 or so mins, ended up getting new one since i have a lifetime warranty , went home put it on, put the belt on, started it screeched for a quick second then stopped, and i wow surprised, didnt make no sound, drove around redline once or twice getting moving, turned the car on and off several times, and everytime i turned on the car the screech was disappearing little by little.

What i think is that, the autozone belt i used last time, probably was a piece of crap, couldnt withstand the high rev and snapped and pieces of it probably stuck around on the pulley, so with the new belt which is OEM got it from Acura, this should hold up well this time. I assume the alternator was fine and peices probably got stuck inside of it caussing issues. But now its fine, but im taking to my mechanic tomorrow anyway, so hes gonna take a look at that and finish up the rest of my maintanence work . THANKS GUYS!
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