Like the title says...Aftermarket Tensioner for the H22A? I saw it on ebay just thought I would create some conversation on the unit...the link is below...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem

 

I would imagine this unit would add extra pressure on the stock auto tensioner making it weaker?

 

No discussion needed. Just get what has been proven to work reliably and specifically designed for our engine....the H23 manual timing belt tension. Anything else is just asking for trouble.

Remember, aftermarket is NOT always better. Also, there are certain parts you NEVER want to substitute, the timing belt tensioner topping that list. Too much damage can occur.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AndyD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No discussion needed. Just get what has been proven to work reliably and specifically designed for our engine....the H23 manual timing belt tension. Anything else is just asking for trouble.

Remember, aftermarket is NOT always better. Also, there are certain parts you NEVER want to substitute, the timing belt tensioner topping that list. Too much damage can occur.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Lets not be closed minded andy, if you would have clicked the link you would have seen that this is not a replacement for the tensioner, it is solely another idler pulley, and as far as I can see, has nothing but beneficial effects, given that it doesn't push too hard on the belt, and it doesn't look like it does.

I believe this could be beneficial for the high rpm/big cam guys, when the cams lope hard, they can undulate the belt, causing it to wobble and hop, this is in a perfect spot to eliminate that action.

Corrections welcome

 

Well, I'm glad everyone didn't jump on the Honda-Tech Bandwagon, But I would wait to see it in action before I threw it on my engine...I don't have enough funds to blow up MY engine testing a product.

Who wants to be the quinea pig?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AndyD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No discussion needed. Just get what has been proven to work reliably and specifically designed for our engine....the H23 manual timing belt tension. Anything else is just asking for trouble.

Remember, aftermarket is NOT always better. Also, there are certain parts you NEVER want to substitute, the timing belt tensioner topping that list. Too much damage can occur.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would take his advice I have been running the manual tensioner a year with no issues

 

I don't think this should be considered a replacement for a manual tensioner but an aid, this application would only benefit people running high lift cams and high revs. Just like a 70mm thottle body aint gonna do jack unless your head can flow it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueLude94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't think this should be considered a replacement for a manual tensioner but an aid, this application would only benefit people running high lift cams and high revs. Just like a 70mm thottle body aint gonna do jack unless your head can flow it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

incorrect sir, h22 throttle bodies are much too small stock, 70mm is fine

if you have a quarrel with that talk to brad z (rlz)

now, nobody ever said its a replacement, its not, its just an aid

 

Not something I'd jump for, but also I wouldn't be surprised if it works somehow.
I say 50/50, but those are chances I wouldn't take. I don't gamble.

Now, why in the hell do they stick "JDM" on everything though?!!?!

Do people seriously search ebay like:
"I'm looking for rotors, but to hell with USDM ones! JDM is the only thing good enough for rice boi Steve."

 

They put JDM in the title as a search ploy! It is actually against ebay policy to do it, but that is certainly its purpose. I personally have gone on ebay and typed "Prelude JDM" in the search engine just to see what all TRUE JDM parts happen to pop up. Now this would have been something I would have come accross. Otherwise the odds of finding it are slim to none, cause I would never have thought to search for a "Prelude timing belt tensioner" on ebay, Would You?

I would try it for sure, if for one I wasn't using a cover, and two it wasn't $200. I really don't see it hurting anything. As long as the pulley is of good quality with no sharp edges etc....

I agree with mgags in that it is only intended for extra support and NOT a replacement. This could be a decent product for the right setup.

 

looks intriguing but the price is too high.

 

damn, 2 bills for that is allot IMO.

Interesting piece......

 

thats prolly a good idea...i hate seeing that belt flap around like that especially when i'm pushing my piston to valve clearance as close as i am.

i might try to fab one of those up, that price is a little high for something i can make myself.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rosko &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats prolly a good idea...i hate seeing that belt flap around like that especially when i'm pushing my piston to valve clearance as close as i am.

i might try to fab one of those up, that price is a little high for something i can make myself.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you come up with something, I would be willing to bet you could find a few buyers. Count me for one. If you sold a couple you could pay for your materials with the profits. I was a machinist for 5yrs, so I know if your gonna make one you might as well make 5 or 10 cause most of the work and time is spent planning and setting up. I am thinking you could use the OEM H22a balancer pulley for the pulley part of it. I even have one sitting in my garage I could use for my own. Just make the bracket-tensioner setup and let us provide our own pulley.


Modified by MadCityLude at 1:50 PM 8/29/2006

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rosko &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i might try to fab one of those up, that price is a little high for something i can make myself.</TD></TR></TABLE>

+1 on my "To Do" list!

 

thats wayyyyy too expensive for that simple cnc bracket with a pulley..


AND WTF.....JDM.... my hairy bean bag that shop is in Canada.. whats JDM about that eeh&gt;?

 

Yeah that is way too much for it at most should be half the price for whats there...you can't run the timing belt cover either obviously and I would imagine it would put more tension on your stock auto tensioner which isn't a good idea...when the auto tensioner is weak as it is...which in theory that is why it was made....

 

^^ I agree that this is something that should only be used with the H23 manual tensioner conversion done.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ExplicitSpeed360 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah that is way too much for it at most should be half the price for whats there...you can't run the timing belt cover either obviously and I would imagine it would put more tension on your stock auto tensioner which isn't a good idea...when the auto tensioner is weak as it is...which in theory that is why it was made....
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oh yeah, using that with an auto tensioner would be a disaster waiting to happen. I would bet that this would cause the auto tensioner to fail prematurely.

 

are most of you guys running the covers? i dont even know if i have mine anymore.

also, i wouldnt think it would need to be adjustable the way they have it. imo the slack should be taken out on the tensioner side and this should just hold enough pressure on it to keep it from flappin. what do you guys think? that would make the design much simpler.

 

I think it should be adjustable just cause some belts are tighter than others. Depending on your setup, and age of belt etc... As the belt ages it will stretch, which means you would prolly want to add tension every so often

 

yeah i know what ur saying, but if the belt needs tensioned cant it be tensioned with the tensioner? I dont see an advantage to tensioning it in two places.

 

this should work with an h23, right?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92bluepreludeSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this should work with an h23, right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Anything with a timing belt, yes. But if it's stock, there is little to no benefit since you're not running aggressive cams that contribute to the timing belt flap.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skunked &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh yeah, using that with an auto tensioner would be a disaster waiting to happen. I would bet that this would cause the auto tensioner to fail prematurely.</TD></TR></TABLE>

definitely good advice

manual tensioners only for this thing, rosko if you fab one get us a rough estimate on a price for a production run....thanks