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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 03:16 PM
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Well, finally got the car tuned today. It's been long coming, and had to do some last minute work last night to get the car ready. Hondata IM gasket is installed, FPR and guage also installed along with a fresh oil change and a new set of plugs. Once she was all done last night I went to bed early knowing I was getting up this morning at 4:30.

So, get up. Get the car loaded on the trailer and leave for LHT performance in Tampa at 5:30. Traffic was ok, but damn I didn't think I was going to make it in time for my 8 am appointment. I had to stop by and see Dave-ROR and pick up the P06 ECU that Kenji prepped for my S300. Big thanks to both of these guys, because without you 2, today would have never happened.

So, we met Dave around 7:45 (thanks again for getting out of bed and handing me that damn ECU) and off to our final stop... LHT performance in Tampa/St. Petersburg. Met up with John and right off the bat, we get to it. Unload the car, get a basemap in it, then out we go for some street tuning. Man it was funny as **** to see him sitting where the passenger seat should have been, laptop in hand making changes as we go. We get a decent basemap/street tune in there and we call up the place down the street to get the dyno. Well, that didn't work out so well. We couldn't get a hold of the guy, so after an hour or so of BSing with John and another guy at the shop (sorry, don't remember your name) we went to go get lunch. Back at LHT we go after lunch and John tells me we are good to go. He downs a sandwich really quickly and off we go to Race Related right down the street.

So, here I am, getting all excited and ready to go. We get the car on the dyno, strap her down and away we go.

So, break down is the following:

Mugen Intake
SMS Header (1 piece)
SMS Race Exhaust
Hondata IM gasket
Mugen Headgasket

Tuning done with the Hondata S300 EMS

Dyno is a Dynojet

Those are the only performance mods on the car.

On with the pics...

Street tune, getting ready to finally drive the car around, Kenji PO6 ecu used with S300 installed, laptop getting the base map ready.


Car, straped and ready to roll.


John from LHT... doing his thing!


Car on the rollers, doing a pull here...


And finally, what I know you guys just skipped to...



That's right, it was 94.94 degree's F outside, and actually it was raining too while we were doing the pulls. Total HP figure at peak... 192!!! I was so shocked that I actually hit this number. I figured somewhere in the 80's, but no, John is the man. This was also conservative. We could have leaned her out a little bit more for some more peak HP, but we decided to keep it safe. Vtec set at 4000.

All in all, we did like 11 pulls. Kept getting better and better as we kept playing.

I want to thank all of the guys involved in making this happen. Kenji for getting my ECU prepped and my harness overnighted from Cali. Kenji, I owe you a few beers for that one. Dave-ROR for waking up a bit early and passing off the ECU that Kenji prepped for me, and lastly John over at LHT. You are the man!!! 's to all of you!!!
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 03:18 PM
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NICE!!!!!
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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Congrats!!! Wish we had tuners like that here in the sticks. So I guess you are now ready for your event?
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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So when is the first car show?
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 03:45 PM
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Wow, not bad for a trailer queen. Congrats on 192whp on stock internals
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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Dave, out of curiousity. What were your basline hp numbers.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 03:59 PM
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Come a long way and that dyno sheet is the vindication.

Yea, a baseline would be great too. Heck, maybe a video aswell ?
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 04:00 PM
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That some good #'s
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 04:26 PM
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nice #'s i notice your run condition was at 93.82 degree's. Does the run condition have anything to do with whp #? let say 104.88 degree


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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 04:28 PM
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SWEEt!!! DAVE, damn john is all serious when he is tuning lol. I wated to see his face when he was tuning mine but oh well.

Congrats man. I bet you that she was loud as anything when you guys were doing the pulls.

on a great car, and its even better in person.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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ehhh anything less than 200 is unacceptable

glad you finally got that shitbox going Dave

BTW its not SAE
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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not bad for the mods you have, but LOL at that torque curve.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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nice numbers btw did the hondata gasket work? can you touch the manifold without burning yourself?
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RTW DC2R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BTW its not SAE </TD></TR></TABLE>


btw.. peak #'s queens = sux.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Willard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

btw.. peak #'s queens = sux. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I second that. Nice numbers Dave. I just hope the thing will actually see a track one day.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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Dang, Dave. That caR is turning into a weapon.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 06:30 PM
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Nice work LHT-John

Here is a simular setup on the same exact dyno but with 104 deg run conditions:



There are some strong R's running around Fla
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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When you guys say baseline, are you referring to the blue line on the graph, or with the stock ECU and no tuning? The Blue line is the very first pull on the dyno, so I was considering this as the baseline. If your talking about with the stock ECU, John estimates it around 175ish.

Realis, if your talking about weather conditions playing a factor in tuning, I would have to say hell yea. It's makes quite a bit of difference.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by an2ny888 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nice numbers btw did the hondata gasket work? can you touch the manifold without burning yourself?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, we also bypassed the coolant line that goes to the IAC and throttle body. I had my hand on both the IAC and IM after about 10 pulls and it was warm, but I could leave my hand on it for an indefinite amount of time.

Will, yes peak HP numbers suck. John actually offered to bump it all up for a really high peak for you guys, probably a bit closer to 200, but I decided against it. I was just happy with the way things turned out. All over the graph I made gains, mostly in the mid-range area. We had about a 12 hp gain there.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Erik95LS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I second that. Nice numbers Dave. I just hope the thing will actually see a track one day. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, well... uh... I'll have the vid and pics of that in 3 weeks. Had to get the car tuned first, next week I'll be installing the sussy and tweaking a few other things.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 06:46 PM
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h2 is waiting for joo.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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Are you having the dyno chart made into a plaque that you can display in your windshield at the shows?
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 06:54 PM
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Looking good Dave

And nice numbers too.

Ali
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 07:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Reid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you having the dyno chart made into a plaque that you can display in your windshield at the shows?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Was thinking about it, but then I'd have to wash and wax the bitch first. I can't do that. I'm way to lazy to clean the damn thing...

But, I really am thinking if I get the car to over 200 WHP as it sits, or with just a hair more done (IE, no internals, not even cams) then I might and put it up on the wall, or down at the shop.

I know some of you local to FL guys have seen/heard about Johns ITR. Well, I just got an update, and happened to get pics too. Last time I saw him, sometime last year his car was making around 530 HP. Pretty sick IMO. Well, lets just say he fabricates all of his own shiz, and proceeded to get the bug for more. Now... the car tuned on race gas... this is the highest HP number I've heard/seen yet. 650 at the wheels.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 08:25 PM
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amazing results
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mtber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nice work LHT-John

Here is a simular setup on the same exact dyno but with 104 deg run conditions:



There are some strong R's running around Fla </TD></TR></TABLE>

hey that's me
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