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Old Apr 26, 2002 | 04:09 PM
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I am pondering this idea tonight as to reduce weight in my car even further. Oh well i guess i am in that stage right now. The more stripped the better. My question is: will not having the bumper supports pose any problems in potential accidents? Aren't these supports only good for 5 mph and less or something along those lines? Thanks for any input.
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Old Apr 26, 2002 | 04:54 PM
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I am pondering this idea tonight as to reduce weight in my car even further. Oh well i guess i am in that stage right now. The more stripped the better. My question is: will not having the bumper supports pose any problems in potential accidents? Aren't these supports only good for 5 mph and less or something along those lines? Thanks for any input.
The bumper cover is only good for 5 mph...the bumper supports are there to absorb any collision greater than that. It is extremely unsafe - for both you and your car - to drive with no bumper supports. Plus, if you are in an accident, the insurance company will probably not have to pay due to you removing an integral piece of the car's safety structure. Don't do it.
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Old Apr 26, 2002 | 04:59 PM
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Does anyone on this board have their bumper supports removed?? I do, but I forgot to weigh them....anyone got information on this
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Old Apr 26, 2002 | 05:03 PM
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Bob:

Just what i wanted to hear. I didn't think it was safe not having them on the car. I just wanted to make sure of it. Thanks
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Old Apr 26, 2002 | 05:04 PM
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Does anyone on this board have their bumper supports removed?? I do, but I forgot to weigh them....anyone got information on this
The information I have tells me that it is extremely stupid to daily drive a car with no bumper supports in order to save 25-30 lbs.
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Old Apr 26, 2002 | 05:05 PM
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Just what i wanted to hear. I didn't think it was safe not having them on the car. I just wanted to make sure of it. Thanks
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Old Apr 26, 2002 | 05:06 PM
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I think it weighs 15 to 20 lbs at the most. I have one sitting in my room right now. Maybe I'll walk it over to the post office later tonight.

Edit: scrap the 10 to 15 lbs...I think it's closer to 20...I could half-curl it like 15 times with one arm.


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Old Apr 26, 2002 | 05:25 PM
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I think it's closer to 20...I could half-curl it like 15 times with one arm.


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Old Apr 26, 2002 | 05:27 PM
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i think its a total of about 40 lbs or so... they're not light and they are at each end of the car causing it to actually weight it down more. its a big difference without them on the car. how they are bolted on, they probably wont fo much. the front, on the LS at least, is bolts onto a radiator support so its not even helping structural rigidity... but i can see it helping to protect in an impact. do what you will... either way the car will crush like a soda can in an accident. But i think the impact beams serve to divert some of the energy to the sides instead of right into the radiator and cooling fans and other integral parts of the engine.
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Old Apr 26, 2002 | 05:53 PM
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just be anorexic or go on a diet
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Old Apr 26, 2002 | 06:01 PM
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just be anorexic or go on a diet
hey its true... go on a diet if you wanna go faster, or get some chick who can drive and have her race your car for ya... but i am sure you'd have more fun driving. I dont see how SCCA or any other racing organization would let you run without those bumper supports cuz its all about safety at a track and covering their asses.
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Old Apr 26, 2002 | 06:07 PM
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I've been driving with out front and rear support in my car for several years... and my car actually sees tons of track (road racing) time too. you can call me dumb/ignorant, or call me confident.

in anycase, it only weights 35 lbs or so front and back, it is not worth it to pull off in most cases. just leave it in. with out the support beam/foam padding, any minor bump you have with other cars will give serious damage to the car.
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Old Apr 26, 2002 | 06:24 PM
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I've been driving with out front and rear support in my car for several years... and my car actually sees tons of track (road racing) time too. you can call me dumb/ignorant, or call me confident.
I have complete confidence in myself, and aboslutely no confidence in the morons that surround me during my daily commute. Daily driving a car with no bumper supports is dumb/ignorant. On the other hand, a track car with no bumper supports (and presumably a roll cage) =
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Old Apr 26, 2002 | 07:14 PM
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I won't even remove the bumper supports in my race car. What, you think bumper bashes don't happen while racing?

Same reason why I left the side impact beams in the door, despite the fact that my driver's door is gutted and has a NASCAR doorbar extending into it.

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Old Apr 26, 2002 | 07:40 PM
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I think Acura forgot to put the support in my car... I looked behind the rear bumper and didn't seen chit.. Will the insurance cover in this case?
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Old Apr 26, 2002 | 07:41 PM
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I won't even remove the bumper supports in my race car. What, you think bumper bashes don't happen while racing?
I wouldn't take them out of my car either... My point was that it makes more sense for a track only car that has additional reinforcements than a daily driver. Still stupid IMO, but better than putting other people's lives at risk.
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Old Apr 26, 2002 | 07:42 PM
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I think Acura forgot to put the support in my car... I looked behind the rear bumper and didn't seen chit.. Will the insurance cover in this case?
WOW, that's quite an object to overlook hahahaha
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Old Apr 26, 2002 | 07:44 PM
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I think Acura forgot to put the support in my car... I looked behind the rear bumper and didn't seen chit.. Will the insurance cover in this case?
Uhh...I sure hope they didn't forget to put it on... Was your car in an accident or did the dealership take off the bumper cover for some reason? I think you need to have the bumper cover off the car in order to see it.
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The front yes but not the back. You can see it when you look underneath the rear bumper. The car was bought new. Never been to any shop or back to the dealer. The car only has 12k miles (00 ITR) and I've been doing all the tune up myself. No one has driven my car except me (as far as I know)..

Now let the court hearing begin... I wonder who will win. If I win, I'll treat all the SoCal members to the original King Taco.




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Old Apr 26, 2002 | 09:15 PM
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just be anorexic or go on a diet
Yep Xlax is good for at least a tenth. Just **** your way to faster times
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Old Apr 26, 2002 | 09:32 PM
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I say take the support off and go buy yourself a armored vest.. That will keep you from getting hurt..
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Old Apr 26, 2002 | 09:52 PM
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The information I have tells me that it is extremely stupid to daily drive a car with no bumper supports in order to save 25-30 lbs.
What about the poor folks in Japan that dont have these bumper supports?
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Old Apr 26, 2002 | 10:08 PM
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I am pondering this idea tonight as to reduce weight in my car even further. Oh well i guess i am in that stage right now. The more stripped the better. My question is: will not having the bumper supports pose any problems in potential accidents? Aren't these supports only good for 5 mph and less or something along those lines? Thanks for any input.
I think you'll regret removing them. Or at least, I would not be willing to take that risk. Although it says it is a 5mph support, it can save your car from excessive frame damage and etc... Up to you though. Good luck
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Old Apr 27, 2002 | 04:36 AM
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Actually he will lose a lot of weight just by racing...he will probably lose about 5-7 pounds sweating. So that should help right? jk
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Old Apr 27, 2002 | 05:24 AM
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I think you'll regret removing them. Or at least, I would not be willing to take that risk. Although it says it is a 5mph support, it can save your car from excessive frame damage and etc... Up to you though. Good luck
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Bumper supports and radiator core supports are easy to fix. A bent frame is much harder. Same goes for minor side impacts. Doors (and their side beams) are easily replaceable, but if it hits my cage, it's probably going to deform lots of stuff. And if you don't have a cage, well...

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