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Re: tranny oil (meagainsttheworld)
Don't use motor oil... it's not designed for it AT ALL...
The reason that honda suggested using motor oil at the time was they didn't have a contract with a producer of MTL...
On the newer ones they recomend honda MTL..
Use any 75-90 weight gear oil.
I've used Penzoil synchromesh and redline... the redline is great but expensive and some people say that it causes premature bearing wear... In my case I had TONS of bearing/synchro noise which COMPLETELY disappeared for about 100k after using Redline... so I don' think that's the case...But I offer no guarantees.
The reason that honda suggested using motor oil at the time was they didn't have a contract with a producer of MTL...
On the newer ones they recomend honda MTL..
Use any 75-90 weight gear oil.
I've used Penzoil synchromesh and redline... the redline is great but expensive and some people say that it causes premature bearing wear... In my case I had TONS of bearing/synchro noise which COMPLETELY disappeared for about 100k after using Redline... so I don' think that's the case...But I offer no guarantees.
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Re: tranny oil (ibcivinit)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ibcivinit »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yea I agree with the lucas and the 10w/30w that stuff really helps the bearings</TD></TR></TABLE>
really that lucas stuff is that good what about the other stuff they make like the engine oil additive
really that lucas stuff is that good what about the other stuff they make like the engine oil additive
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Re: (nomoreavril)
My last transmission made all kinds of bearing noise, I put sum lucas in it and they didn't say a word! Prolonged the life of my tranny for a while, I told myself then when I put my new tranny in I would add lucas 
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Re: tranny oil (NonovUrbizniz)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NonovUrbizniz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Use any 75-90 weight gear oil.
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You can use any 10w30 synthetic or conventional oil if that is what you manual calls for (10w30). If you use 75-90 weight gear oil you will cause bad things to happen. There are some post on here for this same thing and people have used the gear oil and caused damage to their transmissions
Use any 75-90 weight gear oil.
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You can use any 10w30 synthetic or conventional oil if that is what you manual calls for (10w30). If you use 75-90 weight gear oil you will cause bad things to happen. There are some post on here for this same thing and people have used the gear oil and caused damage to their transmissions
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Re: tranny oil (instructor74)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by instructor74 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You can use any 10w30 synthetic or conventional oil if that is what you manual calls for (10w30). If you use 75-90 weight gear oil you will cause bad things to happen. There are some post on here for this same thing and people have used the gear oil and caused damage to their transmissions</TD></TR></TABLE>
AGAIN...
Honda only recomended 10/30 because they had no contract with an MTL supplier... The SECOND they did they changed the manuals to recomend honda MTL... which IS 75/90 gear oil
Put synthetic 10/30 in your trans and see how long it takes before it's whining louder than a shool girl with a skinned knee.
You can use any 10w30 synthetic or conventional oil if that is what you manual calls for (10w30). If you use 75-90 weight gear oil you will cause bad things to happen. There are some post on here for this same thing and people have used the gear oil and caused damage to their transmissions</TD></TR></TABLE>
AGAIN...
Honda only recomended 10/30 because they had no contract with an MTL supplier... The SECOND they did they changed the manuals to recomend honda MTL... which IS 75/90 gear oil
Put synthetic 10/30 in your trans and see how long it takes before it's whining louder than a shool girl with a skinned knee.
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Re: tranny oil (NonovUrbizniz)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NonovUrbizniz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't use motor oil... it's not designed for it AT ALL...
The reason that honda suggested using motor oil at the time was they didn't have a contract with a producer of MTL...
On the newer ones they recomend honda MTL..
Use any 75-90 weight gear oil.
I've used Penzoil synchromesh and redline... the redline is great but expensive and some people say that it causes premature bearing wear... In my case I had TONS of bearing/synchro noise which COMPLETELY disappeared for about 100k after using Redline... so I don' think that's the case...But I offer no guarantees.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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use 10w-30 non-synthetic motor oil Just like the honda manual states when honda MTF cannot be acquired. Using thick 75-90 gear oil is like pouring pancake syrup in the transmission. It will overheat and melt the plastic cages in the ball bearings and **** everything all up.
The reason that honda suggested using motor oil at the time was they didn't have a contract with a producer of MTL...
On the newer ones they recomend honda MTL..
Use any 75-90 weight gear oil.
I've used Penzoil synchromesh and redline... the redline is great but expensive and some people say that it causes premature bearing wear... In my case I had TONS of bearing/synchro noise which COMPLETELY disappeared for about 100k after using Redline... so I don' think that's the case...But I offer no guarantees.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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use 10w-30 non-synthetic motor oil Just like the honda manual states when honda MTF cannot be acquired. Using thick 75-90 gear oil is like pouring pancake syrup in the transmission. It will overheat and melt the plastic cages in the ball bearings and **** everything all up.
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Re: tranny oil (Bense)
So I guess EVERYONE on here with synchromesh or redline in their trannies are melting up???
I've been using NOTHING but 75/90 for over 100,000 miles... The only thing switching did for me was make a trans that was diagnosed bad at a tranny shop run PERFECT for another 60k.
I'm NOT saying your 100pct wrong... I'm not a tranny expert... but EVERYONE I know or have read about that use either synchromesh or redline MTL have NOTHING but good to day about both...
I've certainly never had a problem using it in my car. Switched to it at about 70k and have 215 now... trans that I was told by multiple mechanics at 70k was GONE lasted till taking out at 210k because the input shaft bearing went... NO other problems.
I've been using NOTHING but 75/90 for over 100,000 miles... The only thing switching did for me was make a trans that was diagnosed bad at a tranny shop run PERFECT for another 60k.
I'm NOT saying your 100pct wrong... I'm not a tranny expert... but EVERYONE I know or have read about that use either synchromesh or redline MTL have NOTHING but good to day about both...
I've certainly never had a problem using it in my car. Switched to it at about 70k and have 215 now... trans that I was told by multiple mechanics at 70k was GONE lasted till taking out at 210k because the input shaft bearing went... NO other problems.
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just some info for you, REDLINE MTL is equivelant to 10w30, w/ differant friction modifiers. sorry, you lose, synchromesh is also the same its not 70-w90 at all.
i use redline MTL in all my nissan trannies, that require GL-4 gear oil, which is almost impossible to obtain, and i know first hand, its like water.
listen to BENSE, he isnt arguing for the sake of arguing, he is trying to help everyone. it helped your bad tranny because of the differant friction modifiers, not the viscosity.
i use redline MTL in all my nissan trannies, that require GL-4 gear oil, which is almost impossible to obtain, and i know first hand, its like water.
listen to BENSE, he isnt arguing for the sake of arguing, he is trying to help everyone. it helped your bad tranny because of the differant friction modifiers, not the viscosity.
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Re: (schardbody)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schardbody »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just some info for you, REDLINE MTL is equivelant to 10w30, w/ differant friction modifiers. sorry, you lose, synchromesh is also the same its not 70-w90 at all.
i use redline MTL in all my nissan trannies, that require GL-4 gear oil, which is almost impossible to obtain, and i know first hand, its like water.
listen to BENSE, he isnt arguing for the sake of arguing, he is trying to help everyone. it helped your bad tranny because of the differant friction modifiers, not the viscosity.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Whatever... I should have said use synchromesh or redline... but FYI Redline describes their MTL as follows:
MTL is a low 70W at very low temperatures and a high 80W, nearly an 85W, at elevated temperatures, providing adequate viscosity to prevent wear and deaden gear noise
Sounds like 70/85 gear oil to me.
Also to say that MTL is like water is just rediculous... 75/90 is NOT much thicker that MTL and I've used both PLENTY.
As far as I remember MOST manual trannies with an internal differential require 75/90.
i use redline MTL in all my nissan trannies, that require GL-4 gear oil, which is almost impossible to obtain, and i know first hand, its like water.
listen to BENSE, he isnt arguing for the sake of arguing, he is trying to help everyone. it helped your bad tranny because of the differant friction modifiers, not the viscosity.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Whatever... I should have said use synchromesh or redline... but FYI Redline describes their MTL as follows:
MTL is a low 70W at very low temperatures and a high 80W, nearly an 85W, at elevated temperatures, providing adequate viscosity to prevent wear and deaden gear noise
Sounds like 70/85 gear oil to me.
Also to say that MTL is like water is just rediculous... 75/90 is NOT much thicker that MTL and I've used both PLENTY.
As far as I remember MOST manual trannies with an internal differential require 75/90.
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Re: (NonovUrbizniz)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NonovUrbizniz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Whatever... I should have said use synchromesh or redline... but FYI Redline describes their MTL as follows:
MTL is a low 70W at very low temperatures and a high 80W, nearly an 85W, at elevated temperatures, providing adequate viscosity to prevent wear and deaden gear noise
Sounds like 70/85 gear oil to me.
Also to say that MTL is like water is just rediculous... 75/90 is NOT much thicker that MTL and I've used both PLENTY.
As far as I remember MOST manual trannies with an internal differential require 75/90.</TD></TR></TABLE>
when i get home i will prove it, i dont have time to argue the point at work. but i can show you first hand that youre wrong.
Whatever... I should have said use synchromesh or redline... but FYI Redline describes their MTL as follows:
MTL is a low 70W at very low temperatures and a high 80W, nearly an 85W, at elevated temperatures, providing adequate viscosity to prevent wear and deaden gear noise
Sounds like 70/85 gear oil to me.
Also to say that MTL is like water is just rediculous... 75/90 is NOT much thicker that MTL and I've used both PLENTY.
As far as I remember MOST manual trannies with an internal differential require 75/90.</TD></TR></TABLE>
when i get home i will prove it, i dont have time to argue the point at work. but i can show you first hand that youre wrong.
