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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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alright so over today and tomorrow im gonna be building my head. i had the valves , springs, retainers, and rockers installed proffesionaly when i had my head milled and cleaned. so i need to install the cams and stuff. while ding this im gonna post pictures so that people can tell me if im doing anything wrong. thanks for your help if you have any questions please let me know.
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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Looks good, just remember when your ready to put everything together for real you grease up all the cam lobes and do a valve adjustment, and set the cams to TDC.
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 10:12 AM
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how do i know where TDC it according to my cams and gears?
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 11:12 AM
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also... does anyone know off the top of their head what the TQ specs are for the cam gear bolt?

and when im oiling and greasing the cams for assembely should i just use motor oil or some spiceal engine assembly grease
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NScivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how do i know where TDC it according to my cams and gears?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The white dots on the teeth point up and the lines on the teeth point toward each other.

It's a damn shame you're "building your head" with nothing more than Skunk2 Stage 1 camshafts. What a ******* waste. Might as well have gotten OEM Type-R or CTR cams and left the valvetrain alone.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NScivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also... does anyone know off the top of their head what the TQ specs are for the cam gear bolt?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Torque spec is 27 foot pounds, but more won't hurt anything as long as it's not more than 60

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NScivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and when im oiling and greasing the cams for assembely should i just use motor oil or some spiceal engine assembly grease</TD></TR></TABLE>

Assembly lube. You can get some at any autoparts store.
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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and what are the TQ specs for the cam caps?
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NScivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and what are the TQ specs for the cam caps?</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 01:17 PM
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what do you mean by that? you dont want to help me out?
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 01:20 PM
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alright heres an update


and this is TDC pretty much right?


and got these how do i know which goes on which side?
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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bump... please help me out
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 02:10 PM
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Those top pieces does not matter, they are the same thing.
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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alright thanks!! and who knows the TQ specs of those cap bolts?
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 03:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NScivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what do you mean by that? you dont want to help me out?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Archidictus gave you a ****-ton of information and you didn't even say thanks. That's what he is saying.
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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May i ask WHY you are installing the cams,cam caps, and rails? You have to take it all back out to put the head on the block. The head bolts are under the cams.....
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 03:37 PM
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well im sorry for not saying thanks Archidictus this one is to you THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE GREAT INFO it really did help a lot.

as for why im puting on the caps and rails, i just wanted to make sure eveything was gonna spin right before i put it on the block.
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NScivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

as for why im puting on the caps and rails, i just wanted to make sure eveything was gonna spin right before i put it on the block.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ok, i was just makin sure
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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1.) your cams are not aligned correctly. The DOTS face up and the LINES face each other level with the deck surface of the head.

2.) the small cam cap bolts are torqued to 7.2 ft/lbs and the bigger ones to 20 ft/lbs. Apply oil to threads before torquing.

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3.) the cam cap plates are interchangable

4.) unless you're going to take pretty pictures, I'm not sure why you're assembling all this before it's on the car
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 04:01 PM
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thanks much
alright ill fix the cams and take pics in a few seconds.
i already put the cap plates/ rails on because somone already told me it didnt matter
and as for biulding the head not its so that i can make sure that every thing spins correctly befor i put it on the block.
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 04:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NScivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> so that i can make sure that every thing spins correctly befor i put it on the block. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Good luck with that. You'll only be able to spin them with a ratchet and one at a time at that.
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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i think this guy thought he could put it all together then slap it on his car?

dude, download the helms manual, its got pictures and everything.
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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i know i could only spin them one at a time and i like to think better safe then sorry
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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UPDATE

compleated.


and is this TDC
the dots are at the top but as you can see the lines dont match up


and the head is now dissasemblesd once agian..
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