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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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whats up guys well anyway my car spazed out today and then set off a code, so i checked the code and it said that the TDC senso was bad. my question is has anyone changed that sensor and or know how to change it?
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 04:11 PM
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Default Re: TDC sensor (Mrx733)

Is it a p1361 code?

If so, go here..... https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1606805 You are not the first with this problem. About 9 posts down, you will see the FAQ on that.

Hope that helps.

It is #27 in the diagram below.........


Taken from the FAQ thread:

Does your car have these symptoms?
CEL Code : P1361 Camshaft Position (CMP) Sensor A (Top Dead Center (TDC) Sensor) Intermittent Interruption

(car shakes, then RPM tach drops down to the last bar, if you accelerate the car ONLY goes 10-15mph tops even when floored & it feels as if your car became a 2cyl engine, & if you open your hood the temperature is so hot, even the plastic (fuse covers, stock intake box) feels soft and so hot that you cannot touch it.)

::ATTN:: for those who got their codes scanned at Autozone... please double check the codes when you get back home on the internet... the code they gave me for P1361 on their system was "Ignition Coil malfunction" i saw it for myself. but when you check the H-T's ECU its a whole different ballgame.

it turns out its a very known problem for the 01 & 02 civics, it wasnt a thermostat prob as a couple of member suggested to get that checked, it was a TDC sensor (top dead center) located right behind the timing belt shield. but i did check on the thermostat by doing the upper hose diagnostic.

so in the end if this does happen to your car change it a.s.a.p cause i delayed it and it couldve been fixed with a 70-90$ part... that sensor failure damaged my catalytic converter (used 200$)(new 750$), needed a valve adjustment (90$), 4x coils & 4x plugs (190$) all these parts gets damaged eventually if you drive it for a while. i was stranded more than 2 hrs away from home when it happened to me and that was all it took to ruin all those parts.

incase anyone has the same prob as me, ill post a small write up cause it seems like theres not much write-ups & diy's for this generation civic.

difficulty: 2 of 5
parts: TDC Sensor 70-90$ depending on which dealer, ive called 3 with all different prices. (its made by mitsubishi?)
tools: ratchet with 10mm & a 1in or smaller extension, & a screwdriver

1. remove valve cover 5 10mm bolts, (doesnt have to be fully off just enough for the groove of the shield to be removed.)

2. there is a grommet and a plug to the right side if youre standing in front looking down at the vehicle unplug those.

3. remove 3 10mm screws holding the shield.

4.move power steering reservoir over to the side for easy access.

5. if you fully taken off the valve cover then it shouldnt be difficult to remove the shield. but if you just slightly lifted the right edge like i did, pull shield off while lifting the valve cover & shimmy it around the a/c hoses.

6. once the shields off its 1 more 10mm bolt holding down the tdc sensor, reverse for install and start the car to check for cel's and inspect for leaks if youve damaged/changed the valve cover gasket while removing. voila! cars back to normal



Modified by .Red.EM2 at 7:24 PM 8/23/2006
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Old Oct 22, 2011 | 04:50 PM
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I'm glad I found this post even though it's old.

I've pulled the 15amp fuse and reset the ECU and would work for weeks,but if I really laid into the car the check engine light would come on with the same code.

Thank's for the info because I could have damage the cat or the coils like you said.

I'll order one ASAP.
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Old May 12, 2015 | 12:49 PM
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I think this may be my issue, only happen when the car gets a little warm? RPMS dont pass like 2500tops? After letting it sit and cool off, you can drive it normally again for a little?
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Old Jun 6, 2024 | 10:18 AM
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Default Re: TDC sensor (Mrx733)

Originally Posted by Miracle
Is it a p1361 code?

If so, go here..... https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1606805 You are not the first with this problem. About 9 posts down, you will see the FAQ on that.

Hope that helps.

It is #27 in the diagram below.........


Taken from the FAQ thread:

Does your car have these symptoms?
CEL Code : P1361 Camshaft Position (CMP) Sensor A (Top Dead Center (TDC) Sensor) Intermittent Interruption

(car shakes, then RPM tach drops down to the last bar, if you accelerate the car ONLY goes 10-15mph tops even when floored & it feels as if your car became a 2cyl engine, & if you open your hood the temperature is so hot, even the plastic (fuse covers, stock intake box) feels soft and so hot that you cannot touch it.)

::ATTN:: for those who got their codes scanned at Autozone... please double check the codes when you get back home on the internet... the code they gave me for P1361 on their system was "Ignition Coil malfunction" i saw it for myself. but when you check the H-T's ECU its a whole different ballgame.

it turns out its a very known problem for the 01 & 02 civics, it wasnt a thermostat prob as a couple of member suggested to get that checked, it was a TDC sensor (top dead center) located right behind the timing belt shield. but i did check on the thermostat by doing the upper hose diagnostic.

so in the end if this does happen to your car change it a.s.a.p cause i delayed it and it couldve been fixed with a 70-90$ part... that sensor failure damaged my catalytic converter (used 200$)(new 750$), needed a valve adjustment (90$), 4x coils & 4x plugs (190$) all these parts gets damaged eventually if you drive it for a while. i was stranded more than 2 hrs away from home when it happened to me and that was all it took to ruin all those parts.

incase anyone has the same prob as me, ill post a small write up cause it seems like theres not much write-ups & diy's for this generation civic.

difficulty: 2 of 5
parts: TDC Sensor 70-90$ depending on which dealer, ive called 3 with all different prices. (its made by mitsubishi?)
tools: ratchet with 10mm & a 1in or smaller extension, & a screwdriver

1. remove valve cover 5 10mm bolts, (doesnt have to be fully off just enough for the groove of the shield to be removed.)

2. there is a grommet and a plug to the right side if youre standing in front looking down at the vehicle unplug those.

3. remove 3 10mm screws holding the shield.

4.move power steering reservoir over to the side for easy access.

5. if you fully taken off the valve cover then it shouldnt be difficult to remove the shield. but if you just slightly lifted the right edge like i did, pull shield off while lifting the valve cover & shimmy it around the a/c hoses.

6. once the shields off its 1 more 10mm bolt holding down the tdc sensor, reverse for install and start the car to check for cel's and inspect for leaks if youve damaged/changed the valve cover gasket while removing. voila! cars back to normal



Modified by .Red.EM2 at 7:24 PM 8/23/2006
I tried that but the car is still not back to normal. It shut off on me more than a few times on my way to work. But it does not shack during acceleration as it did before.
I even changed the plug to the cmp sensor.
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