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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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ok so i just installed an Action 2ks clutch and fidanza 12 lbs flywheel. i did everything by the helms. I was talking to mgags earlier and the more i think about it, the more i think it might just be something like a loose motor mount bolt or something stupid because i installed everything right. Here's a video of the sound. It only does it when the rpm's are above 6000, rigth when i push in the clutch:


another thing. I havent bled the clutch yet and the tranny fluid i am using it too thick. Gonna be switching to honda mtf. Anyway, the clutch wont disengage until the VERY bottom. Sometimes i have to use excessive force on the clutch pedal for it to let me shift correctly. I have maybe a 1/2" of play at the floor from disengaged to engaged. This cant be right.

will bleeding the clutch fix this?
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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i would adjsut the pushrod on the cluth master cylinder first. probably too low right now the way u are describbing it.

if the clutch didnt need bleeding before the swap, it shoudl need any after, unless of course u pressed teh cluch pedal by accidetn and blew out the slave, hehe.
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 01:29 PM
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well, thats the thing. Max accidently pushed in the clutch a little, i dont know how much. I'm going to bleed it anyway and get some fresh fluid in there.

adjusting the pushrod was what i was told to do. Pull it out some to get the engagement point off the floor.


ok so what about the noise eddie? any thoughts on that?
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 02:06 PM
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Thats what my car did when I had a leak at the slave and it would go dry. Definitely bleed it before anything since you're supposed to do that anyways.
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well, thats the thing. Max accidently pushed in the clutch a little, i dont know how much. I'm going to bleed it anyway and get some fresh fluid in there.

adjusting the pushrod was what i was told to do. Pull it out some to get the engagement point off the floor.


ok so what about the noise eddie? any thoughts on that?</TD></TR></TABLE>

well if he touched the clutch pedal it most likely shot to the floor, i think the spring is pretty strong there hehe, i didt hat before tooo and my slave blew out,

but yah, i would just bleed it out good, then see if the engagmetn point moved at all, if not, lenghten the pushrod a touch.

and as far as the noise, i honestly didn't hear **** in the vid, but maybe i am a bit deaf
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 06:46 PM
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my car did this after a new clutch. Make sure you bleed it well. Something that worked good for me is a gravity bleed. Unscrew the bleed valve on the slave cylinder and leave it leaking with the resevoir full. Leave it sitting till it gets close to empty on the resevoir. If that doesnt make a significant difference you should.replace the master and slave cylinder it will be like new again. PM for an OEM hookup on these parts.
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 06:54 PM
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yea blake check to make sure the slave isnt leaking if your friend hit the pedal, if he did, it almost certainly blew the piston out, and it may not be making a good seal anymore....

as far as the noise goes, think something is rattling as it sits back when you let off and push the clutch in, like you said, check all the motor mounts, esp the transmission mount....

let us know how the bleeding/adjusting goes....i had to adjust my piston after a new clutch also, i forgot to mention that earlier....
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eddiebx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well if he touched the clutch pedal it most likely shot to the floor, i think the spring is pretty strong there hehe, i didt hat before tooo and my slave blew out,

but yah, i would just bleed it out good, then see if the engagmetn point moved at all, if not, lenghten the pushrod a touch.

and as far as the noise, i honestly didn't hear **** in the vid, but maybe i am a bit deaf </TD></TR></TABLE>

i mean its almost getting to the point to where i think i am really putting alot of unneeded pressure on the master cylinder, from having to press it down so hard in order to hit rock bottom on the floor.

turn the volume up eddie.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by roller3804 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my car did this after a new clutch. Make sure you bleed it well. Something that worked good for me is a gravity bleed. Unscrew the bleed valve on the slave cylinder and leave it leaking with the resevoir full. Leave it sitting till it gets close to empty on the resevoir. If that doesnt make a significant difference you should.replace the master and slave cylinder it will be like new again. PM for an OEM hookup on these parts. </TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks, i may try that if a regular bleeding doesnt do the job.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mgags7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea blake check to make sure the slave isnt leaking if your friend hit the pedal, if he did, it almost certainly blew the piston out, and it may not be making a good seal anymore....

as far as the noise goes, think something is rattling as it sits back when you let off and push the clutch in, like you said, check all the motor mounts, esp the transmission mount....

let us know how the bleeding/adjusting goes....i had to adjust my piston after a new clutch also, i forgot to mention that earlier....</TD></TR></TABLE>

which clutch did you put in that required you to do this?

I'll definitely bleed it the next time i can get the time to do it. And if that doesnt fix it, i'll give the pushrod a little turn to see if that will bring the engagement point up.

I keep watching the video and it just has to be something simple. If there was something wrong with the throw out bearing or pilot bearing, i think i would be having more trouble putting the car into gear cuz as long as i push the clutch ALL the way down, it shifts smooth. Like i said before, i only have about 1/2" from the floor which is my disengagement area.
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 07:36 PM
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bleed and adjust
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 06:18 PM
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and i knew it. Fixed the noise. I was under there and realized why the torque bolt on the rear mount did not get tightened. Me under the car doing all that good stuff, and max doing the stuff up top. I didnt even think to check everything and thats my fault but its fixed now. bolt was VERY lose at that it took about 10 1/4 turns for it to snug up

about the slave cylinder, is the rod i am turning on the cylinder or is it at the clutch pedal?
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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its at the clutch pedal, loosen the nut on it, then turn the gold rod to adjust....

im glad you found the noise.....i always hate working together on my car too, i dont trust other ppl to do **** (sometimes for good reason)
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 06:10 PM
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ok so i adjusted the pedal. At first i thought i felt a difference. I mean i do, its a TAD easier to drive but i dont feel it did enough and i pulled it out a good inch. engagement/disengagement feel about the same as it did before. Is it possible that maybe i need to push the rod in instead of out?

it feels better once i am moving, but at idle while in gear it wants to keep moving. I still have to have the pedal to the floor to keep it from wanting to go forward......
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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sounds liek its not fully releasing then, u said u bled her out fully right?

maybe leaky slave? try pulling up the boot and see if thers fluid leaking out.
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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thats what i am doing tomorrow. I've got a list of things to get accomplish while i have 3 days off work. So thats just one of my goals
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