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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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Loris Capirossi and Valentino Rossi both tested their respective factory's 2007 GP bike at Brno yesterday and today. Capirossi apparently put in a good amount of laps, Rossi just rode it around a bit for a shakedown.

I'm happy to say the bikes still sound good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9RFKSWy1ow
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 11:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JMU R1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm happy to say the bikes still sound good </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 11:57 AM
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thanks for the clip. is there any ifo on the times they ran or are expected to run. i know they dropped some cc's to try and slow the bikes down a bit, but we all know how technology works, it doesnt bode well with restriction.
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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wow, that sounds great.
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D Day &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks for the clip. is there any ifo on the times they ran or are expected to run. i know they dropped some cc's to try and slow the bikes down a bit, but we all know how technology works, it doesnt bode well with restriction.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No times for Rossi but Capirossi was running around as fast as the slower guys on 990's

Brno Test Times Day 1
1. Valentino Rossi ITA Camel Yamaha Team 1min 57.315 secs
2. Nicky Hayden USA Repsol Honda Team 1min 57.653 secs
3. Marco Melandri ITA Fortuna Honda 1min 57.960 secs
4. Casey Stoner AUS Honda LCR 1min 58.172 secs
5. Shinya Nakano JPN Kawasaki Racing Team 1min 58.487 secs
6. Randy de Puniet FRA Kawasaki Racing Team 1min 58.542 secs
7. Loris Capirossi ITA Ducati Marlboro Team 1min 58.563 secs (990cc)
8. Kenny Roberts Jr USA Team Roberts 1min 58.587 secs
9. Carlos Checa SPA Tech 3 Yamaha 1min 58.757 secs
10. Makoto Tamada JPN Konica Minolta Honda 1min 58.758 secs
11. Dani Pedrosa SPA Repsol Honda Team 1min 58.782 secs
12. John Hopkins USA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1min 58.978 secs
13. Chris Vermeulen AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1min 59.120 secs
14. Colin Edwards USA Camel Yamaha Team 1min 59.158 secs
15. Toni Elias SPA Fortuna Honda 1min 59.435 secs
16. James Ellison GBR Tech 3 Yamaha 1min 59.580 secs
17. Loris Capirossi ITA Ducati Marlboro Team 1min 59.600 secs (800cc)
18. Sylvain Guintoli GBR Tech 3 Yamaha 2min 0.023 secs
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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I wonder what rev capabilities the new 800 will have. If it will be similar to the decrease to v8s in F1. From an interview from a week ago, Capirossi thinks that given time, the 800cc will be as fast as the current 990's. It'll be interesting to see if this gives the guys with the 250cc background a little more of an upper hand.
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RacerZook &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wonder what rev capabilities the new 800 will have. If it will be similar to the decrease to v8s in F1. From an interview from a week ago, Capirossi thinks that given time, the 800cc will be as fast as the current 990's. It'll be interesting to see if this gives the guys with the 250cc background a little more of an upper hand.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i know for a fact that King Kenny was already complaining that they need to have a rider/bike weight limit for the new 800s. his arguement was that kenny jr already gets pulled very hard out of corners and down straights by smaller riders like Pedrosa. this effect will only be magnified whent he CC's are shrunk down.

sicne this was basically a shakedown test session, i see the 800's being very close to the current bikes speed wise. i mean it would be ignorant to think that people like Honda would not be reading betweent he lines in the new rulebook to try and find the smallest gains and loopholes.
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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******* pedrosa
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 01:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D Day &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i know for a fact that King Kenny was already complaining that they need to have a rider/bike weight limit for the new 800s. his arguement was that kenny jr already gets pulled very hard out of corners and down straights by smaller riders like Pedrosa. this effect will only be magnified whent he CC's are shrunk down.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree. A 30-40 lb weight advantage is signifcant in a sport where engineers work furiously to shave grams. I wouldn't be surprised to see a combined weight limit come in the next 2 to 3 years, if not sooner. It all depends on how well Pedrosa does. My guess is that he will win a lot of races next year.
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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um just curious but I assume you guys mean weight minimum? A weight limit would mean they can't be heavier then a certain weight which makes no sense in racing... Just being picky...
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EngineNoO9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">um just curious but I assume you guys mean weight minimum? A weight limit would mean they can't be heavier then a certain weight which makes no sense in racing... Just being picky... </TD></TR></TABLE>

The word limit implies either a maximum, or MINIMUM amount.

Just being picky.
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 07:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EngineNoO9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A weight limit would mean they can't be heavier then a certain weight which makes no sense in racing</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually the last sled pull I went too, the MAXIMUM weight limit for my class (WS - work stock) was 8,000lbs. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 08:15 AM
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Is Rossi faster on a 990cc or a 800cc?
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 09:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Newk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is Rossi faster on a 990cc or a 800cc?</TD></TR></TABLE>today? i would say the 990, it is a far more developed bike at this point. at this time a year or 2 from now? i wouldnt bet too much on the 990 being faster.
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