Alright, I'm about to pick up a 2000 ITR in a couple days and I asked the seller last night what # it was, he said the badge is on the console but there's no number embossing, so he's thinking the previous owner got a generic badge and kept the original.

well anyway, back to the point. Is there any meek chance in hell I could see if acura could get me a new badge, or at least use the VIN to tell me what # ITR it was?

Thanks,
steve

 

no

 

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And I would check to see why the car does not have the origianl badge....

 

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Awesome, thanks for the info.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by walker111 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And I would check to see why the car does not have the origianl badge....</TD></TR></TABLE>

I trust the seller, his reasoning behind it. Carfax on this is squeaky clean.

I'd just like to know the number, just to know......... ya know?

 

thats the age-old question that will forever haunt the itr mystique as time goes by...wish honda made a correlation between the vin and number plaque. wouldve made it more meaningful for later owners and itr trivia geeks like myself.

 

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maybe it was part of their master plan? I don't know. It just bums me out that I'm not gonna know the number, if somebody asks all I can do is shrug my shoulders. Seems lame, i'm a nerd. Oh well.

 

Just pick one that isnt being used

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1357231

 

before i bought mine, i thought it was the last numbers in the vin, that made the #...

would've actually made any sense!

for the EDM ones, there seems to be an offset though, I guess I need to check if it's always the same...

 

track down the previous owners, till you find one that knows the # or has the armrest!

 

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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1357231</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm going to choose it's the arm rest that was in canada.

I was reading in one of the archived badge posts that they got the production number from the Acura service department but getting the badge was a whole different story. I'm not really concerned with the stamping as much.... If I know the number I can write it in with a sharpie


mitch..... also probably not a bad idea, I'm going to make that my plan B. The original owner took it from 0 to 116k miles, so something tells me he loved that car and wanted to keep something for himself.

 

Isn't it possible to make an educated guess based on a pressumed correllation between production number (from vin) to badge #?

For example if the vin ends in 12345 and there is a missing badge number in list of ITR vins between 1233 and 1238 it would be likely that that is missing badge#?

 

It's been tried to calculate before. User andyt has come very close, but it's not an exact science. If you want to get close, send him a PM with your info and I'm sure he can give you a range. Also, read up on this link. A lot of good info in there.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1492748

 

have you run a carfax on the vehicle to see where it has been registered?

I sold my 00' fbp a couple years ago to someone in Charlotte and then he sold it.......

pm me the vin and i can at least rule out if it was my old car or not.......

 

vins aren't based upon just the last few digits
those are how the cars were produced.
for example.
if the company got an order of 5 gsr's than the first 5 will be entered 1 - 5 accordingly and than say they got an order for 2 r's so then next will be 6 and 7 and they had a **** load of gs's say 400 so than it'l lbe 407 and they another R and so on
so thats why vin's aren't according. i mean you can even test it out your self
take an 01. JH4DC231 thats an itr vin and than some random and the production number of the vehicle not its badge number

and if you own an r. try replacing the last digit with a higher or lower number. chances are it wont' exist but i fyou play with the trim level and motor number. you might find a matching vin.

but thats how it works at chrysler when my friend worked there. he threw the vin on the cars.

 

The car is actually in Miami<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cmdr430 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">have you run a carfax on the vehicle to see where it has been registered?

I sold my 00' fbp a couple years ago to someone in Charlotte and then he sold it.......

pm me the vin and i can at least rule out if it was my old car or not.......</TD></TR></TABLE>

The car spent it's whole life in florida.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nautica_t &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">vins aren't based upon just the last few digits
those are how the cars were produced.
for example.
if the company got an order of 5 gsr's than the first 5 will be entered 1 - 5 accordingly and than say they got an order for 2 r's so then next will be 6 and 7 and they had a **** load of gs's say 400 so than it'l lbe 407 and they another R and so on
so thats why vin's aren't according. i mean you can even test it out your self
take an 01. JH4DC231 thats an itr vin and than some random and the production number of the vehicle not its badge number

and if you own an r. try replacing the last digit with a higher or lower number. chances are it wont' exist but i fyou play with the trim level and motor number. you might find a matching vin.

but thats how it works at chrysler when my friend worked there. he threw the vin on the cars. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I thought the list of vins in the link below show that ITRs follow a production sequence..and cannot be confused with a GS, LS, etc..?

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1492748

 

if the original owner had it that long, it should be a piece of cake to track that person down and talk to them about it.

i have only had my <FONT COLOR="red">R</FONT> for about a month now, and IF i EVER decide to sell it, i think i would do the same. (keeping a piece such as the armrest as a memory)

 

steve, i am having the same problem did you find a way?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ed 341 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I thought the list of vins in the link below show that ITRs follow a production sequence..and cannot be confused with a GS, LS, etc..?

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1492748</TD></TR></TABLE>

On page three of that thread, user "nsxtasy" found that there were 4 VIN sequences for each year.
- three-door hatches with automatic transmissions
- three-door hatches with manual transmissions
- four-door sedans with automatic transmissions
- four-door sedans with manual transmissions

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dave_B &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's been tried to calculate before. User andyt has come very close, but it's not an exact science. If you want to get close, send him a PM with your info and I'm sure he can give you a range. Also, read up on this link. A lot of good info in there.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Best you can do is narrow the badge # down to a range it should be in, then research for previous owners. Maybe find the dealership that sold it new and see if they may/can help. Good luck

 

This topic has more misinformation associated with it than just about any other.
I have never talked to someone who first-hand was able to get the missing badge number from Honda/Acura, so I can only assume thats a myth.
There is no numeric corelation between the VIN and the badge number, and by that I mean you cannot calculate one from the other.
However, there may be patterns that could describe a possible badge number for a given VIN.
In 1997 its easier to see the pattern because the number produced was so small, but I still have so little data that I cannot make a conclusion.

The ways to recover your badge #:
1. Using carfax, or something similar, track down the previous owners, and the selling dealership. Call them, you will be surprised how helpful people can be.
2. Find the guys/gals who have the cars with VIN sequences 1 off from yours (1 higher and 1 lower), and if they both know their badge numbers, you can pretty much safely pick any number between these. (Good luck with this one though....)

 

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The ways to recover your badge #:
1. Using carfax, or something similar, track down the previous owners, and the selling dealership. Call them, you will be surprised how helpful people can be.
2. Find the guys/gals who have the cars with VIN sequences 1 off from yours (1 higher and 1 lower), and if they both know their badge numbers, you can pretty much safely pick any number between these. (Good luck with this one though....)</TD></TR></TABLE>

that theory will not work as i mentioned above, its almost near imposible to figure out unless the previous owners remembered. if you look at your vin and car fax it, using a higher or lower number it will not be valid.
my friend works on a production line and he vins the cars on chrysler vehicle, they may be different, but still the same concept.
as they won't produce 200 type r's in numerical sequence at one time, you may get lucky and have 2-3 but not for the most part all of them. there are several variables why they woudlnt' do that, the motors would've been rare at that time and they wouldnt' have racks and racks of those motors. so the cars won't be built as often. where as the gs rs and cars like that would be pushed out faster to accomidate orders throughout the world. and not to mention you have to accomidate where hte vehicle is designated.

so another variable would be car number 000003 GSR went to austrilia, and car number 000004 went to hong kong and 5-8 went to usa, and 9-33 went to canada and so on..
i'm just throwing it out of the blue but you can't take taht into consideration, because the last 6 digits of the vin are production numbers as they come off the line.

-&gt; but at the same time, my theory can totattly be wrong at teh same time.

 

A mutual friend has the service advisor at Acura on it, hopefully this works.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nautica_t &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that theory will not work as i mentioned above, its almost near imposible to figure out unless the previous owners remembered. if you look at your vin and car fax it, using a higher or lower number it will not be valid.
my friend works on a production line and he vins the cars on chrysler vehicle, they may be different, but still the same concept.
as they won't produce 200 type r's in numerical sequence at one time, you may get lucky and have 2-3 but not for the most part all of them. there are several variables why they woudlnt' do that, the motors would've been rare at that time and they wouldnt' have racks and racks of those motors. so the cars won't be built as often. where as the gs rs and cars like that would be pushed out faster to accomidate orders throughout the world. and not to mention you have to accomidate where hte vehicle is designated.

so another variable would be car number 000003 GSR went to austrilia, and car number 000004 went to hong kong and 5-8 went to usa, and 9-33 went to canada and so on..
i'm just throwing it out of the blue but you can't take taht into consideration, because the last 6 digits of the vin are production numbers as they come off the line.
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First of all, we are talking about USDM ITRs only.
So there is no ship one here, ship one there, etc.
Also, we can clearly see from the VINs that they were indeed produced in "batches".
If you just change the sequence number in the VIN and try to carfax it, then yes, you will get nothing, and thats because you did not recalculate the check digit.
Or you could do what I did, and calculate every possible ITR VIN, and then carfax them all.
Heres the one correct thing you said:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nautica_t &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">-&gt; but at the same time, my theory can totattly be wrong at teh same time. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I have not yet been able to do this, but I would like to find 3 people with 97s whos VINs are one off, or from 98. I would bet the badge numbers are at least ordered low to high by VIN.

 

I always laugh at these threads. It makes me think of someone tracing back their lineage or some ****.