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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 06:17 PM
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hey my friend told me he can get me a full set of Unorthodox pulleys for about 300. how much of whp gain do you think i would get from that?
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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Simply put, none.

plus you could mess up your alternator. No way thats a good price, or worth the money.

Pulleys = useless bling.
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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1 maybe 2 whp.
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 06:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Red_EM2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Simply put, none.

plus you could mess up your alternator. No way thats a good price, or worth the money.

Pulleys = useless bling.</TD></TR></TABLE>

u serious? arnt pulleys supposed 2 be good? how come they r crap?
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AiL45 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

u serious? arnt pulleys supposed 2 be good? how come they r crap?</TD></TR></TABLE>

On the d17a2, you might as well crap in one hand and want in the other and see which fills up quickest. The d17 does not respond well to bolt ons at all.

On high performance all motor and boosted applications, they can do a decent amount of good, because they reduce the rotating weight, and provide less strain of the motor to spin the belt driven accesories due to adiabatic (parasitic) power loss.

If you go with a built K, I MIGHT consider going to pulleys, but still doubtful. You can fry your alternator or do other damgae due to the faster spin speeds and imbalance of the alternator pulley.
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Red_EM2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">On the d17a2, you might as well crap in one hand and want in the other and see which fills up quickest. The d17 does not respond well to bolt ons at all.

On high performance all motor and boosted applications, they can do a decent amount of good, because they reduce the rotating weight, and provide less strain of the motor to spin the belt driven accesories due to adiabatic (parasitic) power loss.

If you go with a built K, I MIGHT consider going to pulleys, but still doubtful. You can fry your alternator or do other damgae due to the faster spin speeds and imbalance of the alternator pulley.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well mine is d17a1, but that means my engine is worse lol, but damn how come our engines r such a piece of ****? is there really ANYTHING usefull to do? other than k swap?
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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Yeah, boost, but even then, you will be making a miracle happen if you see anything over 200-220 whp.

Its a lost cause man.
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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i hear the power steering pulley makes the steering feel tighter...but thats about it. you'll see 1-2hp out of pulleys REALLY high up in the power band...meaning youll never see the extra horses everyday unless you like to redline every gear.
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 09:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skipbarber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i hear the power steering pulley makes the steering feel tighter...but thats about it. you'll see 1-2hp out of pulleys REALLY high up in the power band...meaning youll never see the extra horses everyday unless you like to redline every gear.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you heard right ..i have the AEM tru pulley kit (alternator and power steering)


but as for the unothadox ..dont get it b/c when it replaces the crank pulley you loose the vibration damper and you engine life goes out the door
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 09:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AiL45 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well mine is d17a1, but that means my engine is worse lol, but damn how come our engines r such a piece of ****? is there really ANYTHING usefull to do? other than k swap?</TD></TR></TABLE>

This has been asked numerous times. The D17 is the red-headed stepchild of the D-series family. It has little in common with it's bretheren, and since it wasn't strongly supported in Japan, it basically was left aside for it's stronger cousin, the K-series.
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 11:24 AM
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yea, you definately dont want to get an underdrive pulley. losing the weight of the harmonic damper with an aluminum pulley would yield a good hp increase to cost ratio..at first. but youre subjecting your motor to 5-10x the wear. just isnt worth it unless you feel like completely rebuilding your motor every year.
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