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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 11:17 AM
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Default Bushing issue with OMNI rear control arms.:..

Has anyone had problems with the bushings staying seated with these? The bushing for where the strut connects has come loose from the arm itself, meaning that it moves back and for as the car suspends. It just seems like there is way too much play back there compared the oem pieces.

Is it just me or are everyones like this?
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 05:15 AM
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It's not just you - Omnipower uses shitty bushings. Which is generally why I recommend to not buy those useless arms, and to just re-bush your stock arms.
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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I wonder if they'll replace them?
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 8point6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wonder if they'll replace them? </TD></TR></TABLE>
You could call up Omnipower and discuss it with them. Their customer service is generally excellent. However, I don't know if they have updated the bushings at all, so any replacement might just include the same shitty bushings.
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 10:52 PM
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the omni bushings are crap. right now, im using a set of EK bushings. works well.
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 12:07 AM
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Couldnt u use some energy suspensions bushings in the omnipower ones place?
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by omniman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

this is our new eg/dc rear lca. it will be availible next week.

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are you a omni representative?...if so i would like your opinion or comments on the bushing on the old setup
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMFreak &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are you a omni representative?...if so i would like your opinion or comments on the bushing on the old setup </TD></TR></TABLE>
That's Steve "Omniman" Rothenbuehler, the founder of Omnipower.
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
That's Steve "Omniman" Rothenbuehler.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Isn't that the quarterback for the Steelers?

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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecvoodoo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Isn't that the quarterback for the Steelers?

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Now that's funny
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 06:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That's Steve "Omniman" Rothenbuehler, the founder of Omnipower.</TD></TR></TABLE>

sorry i didnt know that...i feel stupid now...thank you
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by omniman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

this is our new eg/dc rear lca. it will be availible next week.

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LOL, coping the Function7 design I see. Function7 LCAs have been the envy of all the LCA manufactures since their introduction.



1. Function7 LCAs are made from 7075 Billet, not 6061 (for a 15-20% increase in strength)
2. Function7 has done considerable research and development of bushing design and compounds to offer unsurpassed quality and durability.
3. Billet components are far suprior in strength vs cast parts.
4. All Function7 products are made in the USA, of quality materials.
5. Function7 puts each product through stress analysis testing to identify potential points of failure and rectify them before production, or make it to the customer.


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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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Looks really familiar...hrm. Hang on.
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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Looks really familiar...hrm. Hang on.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothre...02256

Learn from rota. they've perfected the art of making knock-offs



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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 06:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by STIBungy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
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That's going in my signature.
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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haha,
I just got off the phone with Bob from omni. It sounds like he'll be swapping my old set with an older set of lca's, which have the same design, because their bushings weren't completely an epidemic. I can't wait!
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 05:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by omniman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

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so you're trying to say you copied F7 and they can't do anything about it?
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 06:17 AM
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those two lca's are probably made by the same company over in thailand and maybe F7 was the first to start using this company.... all this marketing jab is googligosh
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 07:17 AM
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Just to clear up some bullshit, Function7 LCAs are made in-house in the USA (this is engraved right on the LCA itself). The only item they do not make are the bushings which are custom made to F7 specs by Energy Suspension. If you're interested in the facts, feel free to visit http://www.function-7.com/a0-sus-info.html.

It's pretty sad that F7 is getting beat up in this thread when they haven't posted a thing. That pic of the baby crying is really professional.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 03:34 PM
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did you make the photo of the baby with F7 on it inhouse or is it made overseas?



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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bigstatik &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">did you make the photo of the baby with F7 on it inhouse or is it made overseas?
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It's funny all of this should come up. Most of the items in the suspension market forum are all made overseas. All this Omni / k-sport / blox / megan's racing stuff is pretty abundant these days.

I've got about 35k+ miles on my F7 rear LCA's on my street car, and about 2k miles on the race car. No wear of any kind anywhere, but that's why I paid roughly twice as much for good arms, versus ones made in China somewhere with crappy bushings.

I like to support Function-7, a small in-house grassroots company that bought their CNC Mill locally, crafts all their items with pride, all right here in the USA.

There is a big difference between bottom dollar knockoffs, and equipment built to take punishment. There is also a big difference between materials, tooling, finish, engineering and machines used.

I suppose one way to bash a company and their demographic would be to post a picture of a kid with F7 drawn on it in MS-Paint. I think it says more to post a picture of Omnipower's design sketch, drafted in Guangdong, or whatever communist regime put them together. I think it helps show where our hard earned money is going:



I suppose after bashing a rival manufacturing house, it would be more appropriate to follow it up with a hindsighted post about how a vendor is in place for the "wants and needs of the consumer", right?

It looks like your consumers wanted features found on Function-7 arms, but at half the price. So why not step in, make them elsewhere, and import them here for us all to get cheaper equipment right? Sounds like a great plan for us all. I guess that loops my post back up to the top, all over again. Well, that, and people looking for replacement bushings I guess.
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 09:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by STIBungy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
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Rota does not attempt to copy function. They deliberately make cheaper wheels that look like designs they think people will buy.

They don't pretend in any way that you're buying the same thing for cheaper. They're very public about what they offer the people.

If Rota <u>did</u> want to copy the Spoon/Desmond design completely, though, I am not sure there would be any way to stop them. The only reason they don't do it is they don't think there are enough Honda aficionados who will pay $2,000 US for a set of wheels.
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 09:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pomansouth01 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">those two lca's are probably made by the same company ....</TD></TR></TABLE>
Looking closely at the pictures that were provided, it seems to me that there are some notable design differences even though the silhouette is clearly the same.

I'm not sure what to say about that. I mean, aren't they both copying the Showa and Honda designs, anyway?

It's hard to copyright something that amounts to "just a good idea."
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 10:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sinitron &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I like to support Function-7, a small in-house grassroots company....</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's always good to see people getting ahead doing what they like to do.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I suppose one way to bash a company and their demographic would be to post a picture of a kid with F7 drawn on it in MS-Paint. </TD></TR></TABLE>
You should probably both of you just relax a bit.
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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just because someone makes better of their product doesnt mean they copied them, look at the pic the arms look nothing alike, the only similarity is the adj. sway bar holes other than that they are different. people need to get over this copying bullshit....if they were copys then they would be almost the exact same hence(rota C10s and Mf10's)





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