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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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Default Three-wheelers welcome at HPDEs?

I'd expect yes but thought I'd ask... never mind why.

I know they are not welcome at SCCA-run events, even autocrosses
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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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Default Re: Three-wheelers welcome at HPDEs? (kb58)

You mean like old ATC's they made back in the 80's, or 3-wheeled motorcycles like you see on the road being driven by some wanna-be harley guy?
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 09:03 AM
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Oh, sorry, no. Two wheels in the front, one in the back. Engine behind the driver.
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 11:05 AM
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T-rex ?

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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 11:37 AM
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How bout this sexy lil European number? Dunno what class it'd be in though...
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 02:05 PM
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that would roll so fast, lol
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 07:39 PM
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Ugg, no not one of those... though from that camera angle and lighting it looks like a hovercraft, with tailwheels...
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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I 3 wheel at HPDE's.... when my rear wheel hits the chicane .

You drifting that mini again?
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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That's the funny thing about drifting a mid-engine car. It doesn't want to... it just want to take off without spinning the tires; you really have to throw it. It's a good example of how drifting, while it looks nice, isn't the fastest way around a track. "Initial-D" and drift events seems to have convinced youth that it is.

I'd like to get a good driver drive a car around an autocross (or road-course,) one lap drifting, and one lap "normal." Maybe it would put to rest this misplace notion.
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MidShipCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I 3 wheel at HPDE's.... when my rear wheel hits the chicane </TD></TR></TABLE>

That's a big part of it, if you miss the cone with the front tire, you're guaranteed to miss it with the rear!
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 03:00 PM
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Shrike?



or Sub?



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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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you know your not going to get an answer till you tell us what it is, lol
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 05:56 PM
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Geez, a bunch of comedians...

Funny the picture of the Shrike, I know the owner, know where that was taken, and who took the picture. He's likely parked right next to my Mini.

And the SUB, I got to see that too. It was built to an amazing level of fit-and-finish. Which is explained by the fact the guys who built it build concept vehicles in their "day job."

Okay, okay, just so you know, the vehicle I'm thinking about... lives, for the time being, only in my head! It would be a shame to build something and not be able to drive it in various events, which is why I asked.
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 06:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kb58 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Funny the picture of the Shrike, I know the owner, know where that was taken, and who took the picture. He's likely parked right next to my Mini.

And the SUB, I got to see that too. It was built to an amazing level of fit-and-finish. Which is explained by the fact the guys who built it build concept vehicles in their "day job."</TD></TR></TABLE>

Where do you think I read about both of them?
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 08:08 AM
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Doh, but of course!
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 08:31 AM
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2.5. CAR (Automobile)
A self-propelled land vehicle running on four wheels, not in a
line, which shall be in contact with the ground. At least two
(2) wheels shall affect the steering and at least two (2) the
propulsion.


this + this = meets the rule


In fact, not to be totally flippant, a 'dually' rear wheel would meet the letter, and I would argue the intent, of the rule. The 4 wheel requirement is presumably in there to eliminate motorcycles and sidecar racers.
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 09:42 AM
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Yeah I though about that...

Most HPDEs don't have that rule though, do they? It would be funny to show up to an autocross with that stuck on the back...
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 09:50 AM
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That was the SCCA Time Trials definition above that also governs their version of the HDPE, which they call a PDX.

Here's the SCCA Solo definition:

12.1 AUTOMOBILE (CAR)
A self-propelled land vehicle, running on at least four wheels, not in
a line, which must be in contact with the ground when at rest.


Don't even need the electric motor for this one.

I don't know what other organizations exclude for their track days.

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