OT: Lotus Prototype with Honda Engine vs Lotus Elise
It's too bad that Honda told Lotus no to an engine supply. Nevermind that particular Prototype Lotus having forced induction, the B18C5 is just a friskier engine compared to the Toyota 2ZZ plant.
Of course, K20A would be good, too.
Of course, K20A would be good, too.
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in the vid it said it had 247.7 wheel hp, did they mean crank power, if not how did they get that out of a type R, mods? Im guessing they are using hondata k-pro?
anyone look at the pics on that prototype site and see the pic with the K motor of the oil filter sitting upwards? wouldnt that cause the oil to drain back into the pan causing the car to take longer for oil pressure?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nautica_t »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah alot of people been doing that with the lotus.
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Not true.....
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Not true.....
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SubTitle »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">in the vid it said it had 247.7 wheel hp, did they mean crank power, if not how did they get that out of a type R, mods? Im guessing they are using hondata k-pro?</TD></TR></TABLE>
that isn't hard at all with k-series motors nowadays.
that isn't hard at all with k-series motors nowadays.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98SpecR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
that isn't hard at all with k-series motors nowadays.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yea but I think I read somewhere that the motor was stock internals.. so k20Rs on a dynojet average Ive seen is 200whp (witha good tuner), with k-pro Ive seen some jump to 220whp, so the only onther mod I see is a header and intake... pretty crazy how it would jump to, to 247whp.. but If I remember correct didnt the maker of hondata tune this car right? (what better person to tune than the maker of the program)
that isn't hard at all with k-series motors nowadays.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yea but I think I read somewhere that the motor was stock internals.. so k20Rs on a dynojet average Ive seen is 200whp (witha good tuner), with k-pro Ive seen some jump to 220whp, so the only onther mod I see is a header and intake... pretty crazy how it would jump to, to 247whp.. but If I remember correct didnt the maker of hondata tune this car right? (what better person to tune than the maker of the program)
that isn't a comparison other that one has a built engine and the other doesn't!!
honda does not have a 247 hp at the crank engine....
honda does not have a 247 hp at the crank engine....
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by donz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^ I think he means it's been done before, not that every lotus owner has it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It has been done before, but nevertheless a VERY RARE swap. More people tend to build out their 2ZZGE or boost it.
K20A Swap in an Elise is as rare as an RB Swap in a 240SX.
It has been done before, but nevertheless a VERY RARE swap. More people tend to build out their 2ZZGE or boost it.
K20A Swap in an Elise is as rare as an RB Swap in a 240SX.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Secret Squirrel »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I saw a Lotus proto at Infineon Raceway here in CA ~4 years ago and it had a B18C5...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Was it one of the Sun cars?
http://www.sunspeed.com/pr_els01.html
Was it one of the Sun cars?
http://www.sunspeed.com/pr_els01.html
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Secret Squirrel »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I saw a Lotus proto at Infineon Raceway here in CA ~4 years ago and it had a B18C5...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Same, even saw it when they first swapped in a K20A with JRSC.
I've actually talked directly with the Lotus reps and in their honesty they admitted that Toyota provided them with a better deal with their 2ZZ-crap. It wasn't cause Honda didn't want to supply their engines, Lotus just wanted a better deal.
Same, even saw it when they first swapped in a K20A with JRSC.
I've actually talked directly with the Lotus reps and in their honesty they admitted that Toyota provided them with a better deal with their 2ZZ-crap. It wasn't cause Honda didn't want to supply their engines, Lotus just wanted a better deal.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tartje »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">F20C
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and tell me how is that going to mount to a mid engine setup tranny....
see.....and 247....whatever...
(or near enough in JDM spec
)</TD></TR></TABLE>and tell me how is that going to mount to a mid engine setup tranny....
see.....and 247....whatever...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nautica_t »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah alot of people been doing that with the lotus.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah thats not true because that swap costs like 20K. Look at the mounting hardware price, its like 7g's
yeah thats not true because that swap costs like 20K. Look at the mounting hardware price, its like 7g's




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