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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 08:30 AM
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First question:

I have already done i/h/c/e. Are there other basic boltons under $500 that improve the power that goes to your wheels by reducing the amount of strain on the engine.

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I want to reduce the weight of my care which will help with the feeling of more power to the wheels. I know my ABS system is broken and would like to remove it. does anyone know how.

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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 08:58 AM
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you could look at things like crank pulleys, or a flywheel, the best thing to do is read through the faq's there is alot of info there
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 08:59 AM
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Well, if you look here: .:: | FAQ FAQ FAQ - Essential Prelude Links | ::.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/689805

Then you would find this: The 'What can I do for more power?' Thread
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1029795

and this: How To: Lighten that lude!
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1036229
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 09:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lewdin’ Incognito &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, if you look here: .:: | FAQ FAQ FAQ - Essential Prelude Links | ::.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/689805

Then you would find this: The 'What can I do for more power?' Thread
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1029795

and this: How To: Lighten that lude!
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1036229</TD></TR></TABLE>

nicely done
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 09:31 AM
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quick reply.....

best bang for your buck is VAFC + Camgears + tuning........ that will give you more HP than all those boltons........

2nd best bang for you buck is Nitrous.... get a nice 55+ dry shot and have fun with the 35-55 more hp at the wheels.... just make sure you tune it.
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92blkJDMh22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">quick reply.....

best bang for your buck is VAFC + Camgears + tuning........ that will give you more HP than all those boltons........

2nd best bang for you buck is Nitrous.... get a nice 55+ dry shot and have fun with the 35-55 more hp at the wheels.... just make sure you tune it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

more like chipped p28, Crome Pro tuning, cam gears.

2nd, i would never trust a dry shot. Thats just my opinion tho.

I just put a 12lbs flywheel in my car and my lowend torque increase a fairly large amount. I know this because now my tires break loose from a roll in 1st gear at 3500. Didnt do that before. Its a good cheap investment if you can do the install yourself.

Removing ABS is a PITA (pain in the ***). Search for ABS removal, i believe in the integra forum. There is a writeup on how to do it. You will then see how much work it is.

remove power steering, ac, cruise control, gut the trunk.
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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hey, if you can get a chipped p28, crome pro tuning and camgears for 500, im gonna move out to where you are.....
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 11:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92blkJDMh22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey, if you can get a chipped p28, crome pro tuning and camgears for 500, im gonna move out to where you are.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

chipped p28 = 175
conversion harness = 75
Crome = free
Tuning - 125
cam gears - 180

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I do my own tuning as well. So that helps me atleast.......
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 11:37 AM
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that adds up a bit better.......
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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then compare it to a new vafc.

--- 300
install - 50 (if you cant do it yourself)
tuning - 125
cam gears - 180

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555 for a tune 100 times better an a vafc

or 665 for a fuel only tuning.


not arguining with you, just throwing out the facts.
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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to remove abs, take out that big *** modulator in the corner by the fusebox bolted to the framerail/shock tower.

get a non abs master cylinder and brake booster, proportioning valve and get all new brake lines. it's a ******* bitch to do really. i wouldn't recommend doing it with the motor in the car either, i would ******* kill someone if i had to do it with the motor in the car
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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just throwing this back out there.... if you pay 300 buck for a VAFC (not a VAFCII) you are getting ripped off.... they go for about a 100 on ebay average.......

putting my math at
100 - VAFC
50 - pro isntall
125 - pro tuning
225 - High Figure for camgears
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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How do camgears help performance
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 12:47 PM
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I believe by changing the timing of the engine.
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 01:08 PM
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cars, even "sports cars" come from the factory at a compromise of economy and performance......

the timing of the car is no different.... cam gears give you the ablity to work with the potential of your drivetrain to tune your engine more specifically to your needs...

thats a breife description, more detail would be thread jacking....
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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but you would really need different cams to pull the max potential with cam gears. or so i've heard

who has dynoplots of actual before/after cam install w/tuning?

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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 03:07 PM
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Are pulleys really worth $130.

Are they easy to install.
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 03:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
chipped p28 = 175
conversion harness = 75
Crome = free
Tuning - 125
cam gears - 180
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Where do you get that conversion harness?
What needs to be converted for a 92 Prelude Si to use a p06/p28?
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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u dont need a conversion harness for a car thats already OBDI.

the conversion is only for OBDII cars who are going to run OBDI ecu's.
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 03:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Vtecattack &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are pulleys really worth $130.

Are they easy to install.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well if you are asking this, then yes, they would probably be difficult to install.

if you can do a timing belt then no, its not hard to install.

and i still don't think its worth it at this point and time.
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 03:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by petern101 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well if you are asking this, then yes, they would probably be difficult to install.

if you can do a timing belt then no, its not hard to install.

and i still don't think its worth it at this point and time. </TD></TR></TABLE>

If you can swap an alternator, you can install a pulley set. Its not hard, but if you get confused and dont know how to fix it, you might be stuck without a car for a day or two.

if you want a little more power, drop ac and power steering all together. That will gain more power than spending money to add a little.

I have an writeup posted in the FAQ on how to remove powersteering and loop the lines. It takes a little getting used to, but its nothing now.
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 10:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">u dont need a conversion harness for a car thats already OBDI.

the conversion is only for OBDII cars who are going to run OBDI ecu's.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Plug and play or do you have to swap wires in the ecu harness?
Can I just plug in a p06 and my car will run? not properly but will do the job?
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 10:59 PM
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any obd I ecu is plug and play in your car
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 11:13 PM
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i dont think a light weight pulley really helps, get a light weight flywheel, and get a throttle body spacer....i know the spacer will give you some torque..........
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 11:14 PM
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How much power would you get on a stock engine if you added cam gears & tuned on a dyno (assuming you have i/h/e & other basic bolt-on's)??
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