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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 07:19 PM
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I just installed lowering springs for the first time (Netami), and my car vibrates pretty badly after 45 mph. There is definately negative camber on my front wheels, therefore I'm guessing my toe is too far in, creating bad vibrations.

Another thing.... I went with Netami because they were cheaper than Tein and Eibach, but the detailed information about them along with being made in Japan told me they were alot better than the $25 springs on Ebay.

BUT: My rear springs sound like they're moving around when I hit little bumps. I hope I can fix these problems or else I'm going to start saving for Tein SS Coilovers, ya get what you pay for right?. But I hope I don't have to, ya know.
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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vibration usually means wheel balance, but if you're drastically lowered, it could the toe/camber instead. how big a drop?
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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1.75" F/R
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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stock wheels or bigger ones?
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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Stock 15's. My Racing Sparco 18's are going on this week so I need to fix these problems.
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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vibrating (especially through the steering wheel) usually means the tires need to be balanced. start by checking the tire pressure on all 4 wheels, and then go get em balanced, see if that helps. also, most tire shops will check your alignment for free and tell you if it's off, but make sure you let them know your car is lowered, as that can affect things.
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 07:32 PM
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I don't see why your toe would vibrate, it would pull your car.. But you should definitely get a camber kit it your tires are toeing, or you'll tear them up quick.
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 07:35 PM
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dont think it would suddenly happen, unless something got hurt during spring installation, but I just put in a new half-shaft in mine and got rid of the vibration I had in the 50-60 mph range.

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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 07:35 PM
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I already have signs of negative camber on my front tires, can this progressively worsen the vibration? I can't even drive it on the highway. I can get my alignment checked though at the Honda dealership I work at.
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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YES!!

you work at a dealer? have the guys flop the tires so the unworn part sits on the inside, if that solves your problem, you know your tires are toast and you need a camber kit. in some cases, a regular 4 wheel alignment can make neg. camber not an issue. they can sometimes use toe to fix the problem. a camber kit is def. better, tho
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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About the back springs....

When I installed them on the strut they didn't even reach the strut tower, they were too short. But when I got them on the car and lowered my jack, the weight of the car filled the gap and compressed my springs, normal for a lowering spring right? But I can now hear them moving around, maybe even hitting the strut.
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fast_honda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">About the back springs....

When I installed them on the strut they didn't even reach the strut tower, they were too short. But when I got them on the car and lowered my jack, the weight of the car filled the gap and compressed my springs, normal for a lowering spring right? But I can now hear them moving around, maybe even hitting the strut.</TD></TR></TABLE>



Anyways, alignment won't make your car vibrate. Something's off balance or loose.
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 09:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fast_honda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just installed lowering springs for the first time (Netami), and my car vibrates pretty badly after 45 mph. There is definately negative camber on my front wheels, therefore I'm guessing my toe is too far in, creating bad vibrations.

Another thing.... I went with Netami because they were cheaper than Tein and Eibach, but the detailed information about them along with being made in Japan told me they were alot better than the $25 springs on Ebay.

BUT: My rear springs sound like they're moving around when I hit little bumps. I hope I can fix these problems or else I'm going to start saving for Tein SS Coilovers, ya get what you pay for right?. But I hope I don't have to, ya know.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Netami? I used to sell their **** ON ebay.
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Old Aug 14, 2006 | 07:23 AM
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Yes, I did buy them off of eBay. The rattling is getting worse, and I'm about to go jack up the car and rearrange them a little bit. Did Netami not test these springs when they made them or what? I bet I wouldn't be going through this is I bought Tein or Eibach.
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Old Aug 14, 2006 | 09:24 AM
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i think you should look for progressivly wound springs. my h&r race springs lower 1.9/1.6 f/r and i dont have any issues with slack in the springs. when i put the whole set up together i just had to push the springs down about an 8th inch to ge the nut started, which means that the springs can expand to fill the whole length of the shock. then when the weight of the car is on then they compress to settle at the drop stated above. im a big fan of progressivly wound springs.
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Old Aug 14, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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So today came up with the crazy idea that my springs were upside down, so I turned them around and it rides perfect w/ no rattling. Problem solved. Your thinking, "how did this kid not know the top from the bottom?" Because the Netami logo was upside down on the springs. No joke.
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Old Aug 14, 2006 | 09:37 PM
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LOL!!!
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