So a few weeks ago i installed a killer system into the girlfriend's car. All Pioneer setup. The door speakers are 220, and the rear 6x9's are 240. So i've come up with this number added up...

220x2 (Front Door Speakers) - 480
240x2 (Rear Speakers) - 440
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total - 920 Amps.

So if this all adds up correctly. What kind of amp setup should i use? Should I just go out and buy two 2-channel amps. One amp for the front, and one for the rear. Or should I just buy a one 4-channel amp to run all speakers. Also how can I take advantage of all the speaks potential. Also what kind of wattage should i be look at.

Would a 1000watt amp be too much or 2 500watts be too much?

 

bump**

 

If you're running 920amps on a stock charging system, you have bigger issues


Modified by a_s_ol_ at 1:26 PM 8/13/2006

 

Lol..920 amps

All you need I think is a 50x4 or a 75x4 wrms @4ohm amp, depending on how much power these Pioneers can handle.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dem0nk1d &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The door speakers are 220, and the rear 6x9's are 240.</TD></TR></TABLE>

220 and 240 what? Dollars, watts, amps (wouldn't make sense, but I think this is what you're saying)?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So i've come up with this number added up...

220x2 (Front Door Speakers) - 480
240x2 (Rear Speakers) - 440
_____________________________________
total - 920 Amps.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think you mean watts. Are those rms or peak values?

And yes, 920 amps on a stock charging system is a big problem. I'm pulling less than 60 amps (60 A fuse) and dimming the lights. Imagine what 920 amps would do.

 

what model speakers are you using? First, you are looking at peak power handeling of the speaker you need to be looking at the rms(nominal) on pioneer models. your 6x9 are more likely 50 rms and your fronts 50-60 depending on the model. Post what really in the car and we can help you.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
So a few weeks ago i installed a killer system into the girlfriend's car. All Pioneer setup</TD></TR></TABLE>

Killer system and All Pioneer is an oxymoron, no???

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">220x2 (Front Door Speakers) - 480
240x2 (Rear Speakers) - 440
_____________________________________
total - 920 Amps.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Posts like these just make me shake my head and make this face...

 

I ment 920 jiggawatts, that's wha tmy buddy Doc Brown said.
I mean Good Ol' Watts, in the City of Compton.



Modified by dem0nk1d at 12:57 AM 8/14/2006

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C_EJ8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Killer system and All Pioneer is an oxymoron, no???

Posts like these just make me shake my head and make this face...

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Naw it can be done, http://www.pioneerelectronics.....html

I like the ts-w510spl and the ts-w300

 

Again what are the model numbers of the speakers, we need the "continuous power handling" of the speakers, not the peak power handling.
the 6.5" are probably 35W continuous and the 6X9s are probably 40W continuous, so a 4x40W RMS into 4 ohms or a 4x50W RMS into 4 ohms amp will work just fine. 94

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dem0nk1d &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So a few weeks ago i installed a killer system into the girlfriend's car. All Pioneer setup. The door speakers are 220, and the rear 6x9's are 240. So i've come up with this number added up...

220x2 (Front Door Speakers) - 480
240x2 (Rear Speakers) - 440
_____________________________________
total - 920 Amps.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You added that up all wrong...220W for each front speaker and 240W for each rear speaker...That means you only need a 4-channel amp that provides 220W or 240W to 4 channels. In a car audio setup, the total wattage is not cumulative, meaning you do not add up the wattage. Instead, the power is calculated this way: Power (in watts) x number of channels (speakers). An amplifier sends a set amount of power to each speaker, and since each speaker has a rating of at least 220W, a single 220W 4-channel amp would be enough for you, since it would send 220W to each of the four speakers.

 

^ Your logic is nonexistent.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mnaines &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You added that up all wrong</TD></TR></TABLE>

He added right, just multiplied wrong. 220x2=440 not 480, and 240x2=480, not 440. The addition was fine tho.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by a_s_ol_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^ Your logic is nonexistent.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep. You're contradicting yourself.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mnaines &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the total wattage is not cumulative, meaning you do not add up the wattage.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yet
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Power (in watts) x number of channels</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why multiply by the number of channels if it isn't cumulative?

 

okay my bad, if you saw the sum of the numbers, were just crossed.

but any how the rear speakers are.....

Speaker Type: 3-way - passive
Speaker Diameter: 6" x 9"
Nominal (RMS) Output Power 40 Watt
Max (RMS) Output Power 240 Watt
Response Bandwidth 28 - 30000 Hz
Input Impedance 4 Ohm
Sensitivity 93 dB
Connectivity Technology Wired
Detachable Grilles Yes
Speaker System Details:
Speakers Included
Car speaker - 6" x 9" - 3-way - 40 Watt - 28 - 30000 Hz - 4 Ohm - wired
Driver Details Car speaker : 1 x woofer driver - 6" x 9" - Interlaced Aramid Fiber Reinforced IMPP ¦ Car speaker : 1 x midrange driver - 66mm - Ferro-fluid cooled ¦ Car speaker : 1 x tweeter driver - 3/4"

 

you need a amp that would put out 40 watts rms per channel at 4 ohms. And you will be fine

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dem0nk1d &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but any how the rear speakers are.....

Speaker Type: 3-way - passive
Speaker Diameter: 6" x 9"
Nominal (RMS) Output Power 40 Watt
Max (RMS) Output Power 240 Watt
Response Bandwidth 28 - 30000 Hz
Input Impedance 4 Ohm
Sensitivity 93 dB
Connectivity Technology Wired
Detachable Grilles Yes
Speaker System Details:
Speakers Included
Car speaker - 6" x 9" - 3-way - 40 Watt - 28 - 30000 Hz - 4 Ohm - wired
Driver Details Car speaker : 1 x woofer driver - 6" x 9" - Interlaced Aramid Fiber Reinforced IMPP ¦ Car speaker : 1 x midrange driver - 66mm - Ferro-fluid cooled ¦ Car speaker : 1 x tweeter driver - 3/4"</TD></TR></TABLE>

28Hz to 30kHz on a 6" x 9" 40W RMS 3-way speaker with some wierd fiber woofer cone? How much did those things cost?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mnaines &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You added that up all wrong...220W for each front speaker and 240W for each rear speaker...That means you only need a 4-channel amp that provides 220W or 240W to 4 channels. In a car audio setup, the total wattage is not cumulative, meaning you do not add up the wattage. Instead, the power is calculated this way: Power (in watts) x number of channels (speakers). An amplifier sends a set amount of power to each speaker, and since each speaker has a rating of at least 220W, a single 220W 4-channel amp would be enough for you, since it would send 220W to each of the four speakers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That will make it a 880W amplifier if it sends 220W per channel.

 

220 rears.

 

Dear God people, do you know anything about car audio?

 

omg, To the op. Get a amp that puts out 40-60 watts rms into a 4 ohm load and be done with this thread. You keep quoting the peak power of your speakers. You still never posted what your front speakers are. They have to be around 40-60 rms.

 

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm...il.do

here's a kick *** amp to go with your kick *** speakers...i know i know...its 60x4 !!!

but it is pioneer yo!!!


seriosly though...a basic 4 ch amp @ 40x4 is fine.... and before you ask, you won't blow the speakers by feeding them 60x4

 

thereason i have not gotten the door speakers info, is because i haven't seen her in a week or so. don't have access to her car at the moment, and you have to take whole door panel off. lame.

 

the amp above will be perfect pm'ed