Mini-me timing issues
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My freind calls me over cuz hes stumped on how to time his mini-me. It's a d16a6 w/ a jdm d15b head (which is identical to a z6 head besides the cam if im not mistaken?) So I put the motor at TDC, and the cam in the "up" position, as I have done countless times on a single cam. When I attempt to start the engine, it acts like it wants to run, but kinda kicks back like its firing at the wrong time in the stroke. I tried adjusting the timing forwards, backwards, 180 degrees off, I was trying to time this damn thing for hours. Eventually I just burned up the starter. No biggie I've got another. WTF? Any suggestions, this things got me stumped. Im about to throw the stock head back on.
I know with a minnie me you are supposed to advance the timing either with a cam gear from a D16Y8 or an adjustable cam gear. I think with that combo he has a 12:1 compression so it would definitley have to be advanced. Have you checked for spark?
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Yeah, it has really good spark. You can just tell it sounds like a timing issue. I can get it to turn over smoothly, to where it sounds like a normal motor when it cranks, bu then it doesnt even wanna try and start. When I set it to where it cranks over hard, it acts like it wants to run, but its still off a little. Could the high compression be the cause of the hard cranking when the timing is closer to being right?
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I just went through this yesterday!
1.5s have a different deck height than 1.6s. so mixing a 1.5 head on a 1.6 block (or vise versa) will leave it one tooth short. you will either be one tooth advanced or retarded. the choice is your during install. there is no TDC. If you dont get an adjustable cam gear then you will be off by one full tooth on the cam gear. So you retard your cam by that one tooth, then advance the your distributer all the way. Even at full advancement you will still be retarded.... The car will still run and make power but it wont be ideal.
which timing belt is he using?
Modified by brick top at 1:24 AM 8/13/2006
I just went through this yesterday!
1.5s have a different deck height than 1.6s. so mixing a 1.5 head on a 1.6 block (or vise versa) will leave it one tooth short. you will either be one tooth advanced or retarded. the choice is your during install. there is no TDC. If you dont get an adjustable cam gear then you will be off by one full tooth on the cam gear. So you retard your cam by that one tooth, then advance the your distributer all the way. Even at full advancement you will still be retarded.... The car will still run and make power but it wont be ideal.
which timing belt is he using?
Modified by brick top at 1:24 AM 8/13/2006
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I dunno which belt, we had like 10, and we just picked the one that fit the best. It fits perfect though, I think its a z6 belt.
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