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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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Hey. i am in the market for 2 new tires. i was thinking about getting the falken azenis but then i found out that they only last for about 10k miles. i am looking for something that will last a decent amount of mileage. im in philly so it snows and stuff up here and i need something that will be decent in the snow, but i want something that will grip up real nice too. i was thinking about the toyo proxy 4 or the kumho asx. can u guys recommend me someothing? thanks
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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Since you have to get all-season tires, get the Kumho Ecsta ASX. It's better than the Toyo.

Why are you only buying two tires? Remember, you really shouldn't mix different tires on the same car.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 11:13 AM
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well, cause i got sw388 for dirt cheap but 2 of the tires on them are in horrible condition. mad camber wear and have the belts sticking out, not to mention bubbles. i plan on putting the ASXs in the front though.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 11:36 AM
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i've had good luck with bfgoodrich traction tires. they last long, and have a nice stiff sidewall so they handle pretty well. i've got sumitomos on my teg now, and they grip ok, but the the sidewall is just so damn soft.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by H.is.for.HEROS
well, cause i got sw388 for dirt cheap but 2 of the tires on them are in horrible condition. mad camber wear and have the belts sticking out, not to mention bubbles. i plan on putting the ASXs in the front though.
Mixing tires can cause your handling to be very unpredictable. For example, with better tires in front, your car will tend to oversteer (the back end will want to come around). The tendency towards oversteer vs understeer can change with road conditions and temperatures, since one tire may be more suitable for certain conditions than the other. I really don't advise having tires at one end of the car that are significantly different from the other end. Neither does the Tire Rack:

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As a general rule, tires should not be mixed on any vehicle unless specified as acceptable by the tire or vehicle manufacturer. Drivers should avoid mixing tires with different tread patterns, internal constructions or sizes, and use identical tires on all of their vehicle's wheel positions in order to maintain the best control and stability. Additionally, drivers should never mix winter tires with all-season/summer tires, or mix run-flat tires with non-run-flat tires.

This is one of the reasons that it is desirable to have all of a vehicle's tires wear out at the same time. It's confirmation that the vehicle design, driving conditions and maintenance practices worked in unison to equalize tire wear and performance. It also lets drivers know they got their money's worth out of the current tires and allows them to choose a set of replacements that will either maintain the Original Equipment (O.E.) tires' capabilities, or help tune the vehicle's qualities to even better suit their needs.

Unfortunately wearing out all tires at the same time isn't always possible. Sometimes vehicle design, the use of differently sized tires on front and rear axles, insufficient maintenance and/or driving conditions conspire to prevent it from happening.

If a vehicle's tires don't all wear out at the same time, drivers are typically forced to decide whether they should purchase a new set of tires (forfeiting the worth of the two tires not fully worn out) or just a pair of replacements. While purchasing a new set of tires is best because it will maintain the handling balance engineered into the vehicle while restoring poor weather traction, it is also more expensive. And while purchasing a pair of replacement tires reduces immediate expense, it brings with it the options of choosing exact, equivalent or alternative tires.

Of the three, the best choice is to select the exact tire currently on the vehicle. This assures that the tire's physical dimensions, internal construction, tread design and tread compound are equal to the tires being replaced.

The second option is to choose equivalent tires from the same tire performance category that share the same speed rating, handling and traction characteristics of the original tires. While this isn't as desirable as selecting the exact tire currently on the vehicle, it can become necessary when the original tires are no longer available.

The third option, choosing alternative tires, should only be considered as a temporary solution in an emergency situation. Using alternative tires from different tire performance categories, with alternate sizes or different speed ratings can unbalance the vehicle's handling in poor weather or when pushed to the limit in an emergency.

Because tires play such an important role in every vehicle's comfort qualities and handling capabilities, it is always best to drive on tires that are identical in every detail, including tire brand, model, size and remaining tread depth. Anything else involves some type of compromise.
If you feel that you absolutely must use different tires at both ends, then drive VERY carefully and gently, and don't try to explore the limits of the car on public roads.

Originally Posted by phateless
i've had good luck with bfgoodrich traction tires.
The performance of the BFG Traction T/A is substantially worse than that of the Kumho Ecsta ASX, which is probably why the Tire Rack no longer sells that BFG tire. The BFG tire most similar to the Kumho ASX is the g-Force T/A KDWS, BFG's top all-season tire, which costs a lot more than the ASX and isn't available in sizes to fit most Honda/Acura cars.

Get the Kumho ASX.
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Old Aug 11, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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yokohama avid h4s ... good all season tire and relatively inexpensive too
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Old Aug 11, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 518_GSR_kid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yokohama avid h4s ... good all season tire and relatively inexpensive too </TD></TR></TABLE>

The Avid H4s is nowhere near as good as the Kumho ASX, even though it's the same price.

Get the Kumho ASX.
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