i've heard all the complaints about the lack of torque when doing a b16 swap on a da. so my question is...what should i do to my internals to increase torque? and ls/vtec is out of the question for me. im considering to get a b16 as oppose to a b18c mostly b/c of the price. and i might go turbo in the future.

 

Nothing that would be cheaper than going lsv imo.

 

b16 turbo, but is not gonna last that long on stock block

 

LS/T is better,cheaper,faster than b16/T save your money and build up a ls

 

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Definitely turbo...

 

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Definitely turbo...</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

im sorry to burst your guys' bubbles, but an LS with the same turbo setup as a b16 WILL NOT be faster.

 

yeah I really didn't read the prior posts well enough. I meant just go turbo and skip the engine swap. Put the money into building the LS or something.

 

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atleast it will last a lil longer then b16

 

find a gsr block and put on the b16 head

 

I have a DA with a b16 and it's not that bad. You will miss the torque, the cool thing is you can rev higher than a LS. If you decide to go LSV just make sure it's done right!

 

some cams into that b16

 

b16's arent THAT bad, it's just that theres soo many better options. i would just keep fixing the b16, but if you want to go with torque then yes go with a bigger block

 

i had tons of fun when i was running b16's. yes its a little less torque but its a fun, high revving, reliable, and pretty affordable motor

 

jump off the gay wagon and ditch the vtec, its overrated. might as well put a d series motor in yoru car. ive seen sohc and dohc zc motors smoke b16 as well as a stock ls. reving high does nothing for you. if the power on a motor is from 3500 to 6500 rpm then when you think your coo with your chip that lets you go to 9000 your making alot of noise and are way out of the engines powerband. if you go lsv make sure to use the oil pump and oil squirters in the block, i see so many people skip the squirters. this reduces heat and gain HP and reliability.

 

the only way to get torque or any kind of realy power is to go turbo

i went from a b16 to a built na lsvtec and not i'm boosted and although the lsvtec was much faster and had a lot more tq than the b16, when it comes down to it its still a torqeless slow 4 banger

NA b16's are so unbarable to drive in 2500+ pound cars.

 

you will get your torque from displacement, which means more air/fuel
h22&gt;b20&gt;b18&gt;b16
another way to increase air/fuel is compress the air insdie (ie. Turbo) this will not improve low end, as it will take time for the turbo to spool up
overall, just get a turbo with the LS

 

if u have an ls just keep it and turbo it...cheaper than doing and swap and then turboing...just my opinion.

 

hence why i said ls/T is cheaper, so you can buy more stuff for it as to puting that money towards the b16

 

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I agree completely.

I enjoyed my '90 Integra RS with a B16A1.

 

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i think revving high shouldnt be that prized....who cares if you rev to 9k or 6k ...as long as its fast...id take the cobra revving to 6k over the b16 going to 9k..who cares how much rpms youre turning???

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rkrone &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you will get your torque from displacement, which means more air/fuel
h22&gt;b20&gt;b18&gt;b16
another way to increase air/fuel is compress the air insdie (ie. Turbo) this will not improve low end, as it will take time for the turbo to spool up
overall, just get a turbo with the LS</TD></TR></TABLE>

let me revise the bold

b18c&gt;b18c1&gt;h22&gt;b20v&gt;b16

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CW_98gsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">let me revise the bold

b18c&gt;b18c1&gt;h22&gt;b20v&gt;b16</TD></TR></TABLE>

haha just laught at you

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90runner157 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">jump off the gay wagon and ditch the vtec, its overrated. might as well put a d series motor in yoru car. ive seen sohc and dohc zc motors smoke b16 as well as a stock ls. reving high does nothing for you. if the power on a motor is from 3500 to 6500 rpm then when you think your coo with your chip that lets you go to 9000 your making alot of noise and are way out of the engines powerband. if you go lsv make sure to use the oil pump and oil squirters in the block, i see so many people skip the squirters. this reduces heat and gain HP and reliability. </TD></TR></TABLE>

One reason the non vtec motors suck=Head Flow

I ran a B16 in my teg for a while, it was better than a LS that's for sure.

 

maybe i'll skip the whole engine swap then and keep my da as a reliable daily driver. i'll prolly save up for something in a better platform (ie: 240sx)