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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 12:43 PM
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I am planning on getting a JRSC this summer. I have a few questions though. The first of which is, how much whp will that put me at in addition to the modifications listed below? Second, anyone out there using one, how reliable is it, any problems you have experienced? Lastly, with this charger, would I be able to take out stock ITR's? I do not want to go turbo because it is too much hastle for me at the time so please don't even suggest it. I am dead set on a supercharger so any input on my above questions is appreciated.
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 01:23 PM
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Taking out stock ITRs should not be a problem w/ a charger. As for your choice, to each his own. I only question the hassle that you talk about with a turbo. What hassle? Also, if I remember correctly, you have cams. If so, are they for cars w/ forced induction? If not, you may want to switch them out w/ some that are or the stock ones. As far as the JRSC goes, the only thing I say is good luck. Nobody that I know of around here has been happy with it. In fact the only person who was happy with it just sold his cause he finally got tired of it.

I'm not sure who else makes a s/c for the Integra but I'd look into it. Also, don't rule turbos out until you study both choices very carefully. A turbo is really nice when all you have to do is reach down and change the boost for a race rather than switching out the pulleys. Either way, good luck and enjoy your boost!
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 01:29 PM
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i currently has the jrsc on my ls. when i first got the charger, i was at 122 hp stock.
i had it dynoed @ skunk2 and steve rung it through the gears at 157 hp with the charger. since then an intake, exhaust, cam gears, hks super afr computer, and header have bumped up the hp. you can give a stock itr some competition. you can also switch out the crankshaft pulley for a crv pulley to up the boost. the reliablity of the charger is ok. just make sure you never run to rich or lean. plan on investing in a fpr, fuel rail, jrsc hi-flow fuel pump( i prefer a walboro). i actually plan on selling the charger to finance another project.


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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 01:57 PM
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Dave 421,

The hassles that I am referring to with a turbo is all of the gauges that I will need to buy and be monitoring closely every second. I also will probably end up dealing with a little turbo lag and I have just heard that turbo's on cars that weren't meant to have them really are a pain in the *** and cause problems to the engine. If you have a turbo or any information that is otherwise, please let me know because I am very interested in both. The only advantage of turbo that I have heard is the fact that it makes nearly 1/4 more power than a SC. Thanks for any input you may have. (By the way, if I go turbo, I'll be going Greddy, so if you have any info...)
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 02:10 PM
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Auto, the reason I was asking was because there is nothing that you should be doing to a turbo that you're not doing w/ a s/c if you're taking care of it properly. As for guages, you want to monitor both. You'll want a air/fuel ratio guage with either and I would recommend a boost guage even though the s/c should run constant. Other than that, the main thing with a turbo is having a turbo timer so that it can cool properly which is something that any car can benefit from and presents no problems to you since you just park the car as usual and it takes care of shutting the engine off. The main reason I think you should consider turbo is that they are excellent for high revving engines like we have in our cars (while the B18B may not be considered high-revving compared to the B16 or B18C, it's still decent). Also, the B18B has the advantage of greater torque at low rpm anyway so the turbo complements it with the mid-high rpm power it lacks. With the s/c, your boost is instant but I've yet to talk to a single person who preferred it over a turbo unless it's a vortech on a B16.

If you do decide to go turbo, I would look into Drag. For the money, you get a lot and the only real negative to them is the manifold is cast iron which could be replaced with SS down the road. If you're going to auto-x the car, I'd go s/c. If you're going to drag, I'd go turbo. If it's going to be street/drag then it's a tossup. Just consider the type of driving you do, what you normally shift at, etc. and then purchase accordingly.

Overall, you're on the best board for this info. I'm N/A so I can't offer any first hand experience (just sold a brand new Drag turbo for my car because I decided I wanted to auto-x and they just don't mix) but there are a ton of people on this board that have made this same decision.
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 02:22 PM
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Don't put a SC on an LS. It's not that fast. My friend had one, both on the stock 6 psi pulley and with the CRV pulley. I/H/E etc. He'd put about a length on me off the line, but the I'd start reeling him in with my GSR (I/E). The car was quick, but not all that fast.

LS - Get a turbo.
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 03:05 PM
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As for guages, you want to monitor both. You'll want a air/fuel ratio guage with either and I would recommend a boost guage even though the s/c should run constant. Other than that, the main thing with a turbo is having a turbo timer so that it can cool properly which is something that any car can benefit from and presents no problems to you since you just park the car as usual and it takes care of shutting the engine off.

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a JRSC and a drag3 kit are two totally different worlds. Yes, when monitored correctly and taken care of, a turbo can produce insane power, but even on stock boost levels(around 7 psi w/ drag 3 kit) this usually results in a blown piston ring later down the line...as evidenced by many members here. Turbo timer is NOT the main thing when it comes to turbo. You have to constantly monitor air fuel,boost,and oil pressure. Making sure intercooler pipes are tightened down. Watching for boost spikes. my friend drove his gsr equipped w/ JRSC for months without any gauges and everything ran fine. he eventually swapped out for a b20/b16 for all motor power. A turbo takes alot more maintenance/monitoring than a supercharger...also the smell of burnt oil and things like that become much more commonplace,and the need for good tuning. I had a drag3 on my GSR,and yes, like a fool i hooked up the wastegate line improperly and the piston got fried. If i could go turbo again i probably would, but later down the line when i have more mechanical prowess and knowledge. For a beginner who is looking for some streetable power a SC is not that bad of a choice IMO.
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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 05:06 AM
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all motor, as I said in my previous post, turbo timer isn't the most important thing, I said other than the guages (which I did forget the oil), it's the most important. I was talking about things that he would need to purchase in addition to the kit. I definitely don't think a s/c is a bad choice, I personally wouldn't do it on a LS (at least with the Jackson kit) since the motor is perfect for turbo. Either way, he's going to be looking at much improved power but if he's looking to take out Type-Rs then he's going to need a lot more power than a Jackson is going to give him. Are there any other kits for the LS besides the Jackson? I know more people with problems with the Jackson than people who have had problems w/ turbo

Also, with a turbo, you do have a lot that you have to watch out for and it's definitely not something you want to do yourself. You want to make sure you have a reputable shop install it. I've talked to many people with turbo, and a good installation and good maintenance should take care of you. As with any mod that results in that much power, you will be looking at increased motor wear. That's just the name of the game.
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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 06:05 AM
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You should be able to take stock type r's but if that is you goal that not that fast
(how many R's stay stock?)
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Old Apr 29, 2002 | 11:37 AM
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nah, you can't hang w stock Rs. SCed LS could probably pull anywhere from mid 15 to flat 15. Maybe even very high 14s. But Rs are easily 14.8 and under.
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Old Apr 29, 2002 | 12:06 PM
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LS + JRSC = Weakness
The LS is clearly the integra that was meant the most to have a big fat turbo on it. The low compression and the nice longer gears in the transmission are just asking for 6-7 pounds of boost with no other modifications at all, except an intercooler and some gauges. Seriously consider turbo, when done right and run at a lower psi, you can produce nice power and maintain just about factory reliability.

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