Ok, just suppose you wanted to build a motor to be 2.0L+...

Which bottom end is best to sleeve and why?

I've recently heard some very bad things about b20's being "weak" and breaking from even allmotor applications.....

Of course the criteria is a b-series motor, which will likely get a vtec head...

Here are the choices:

b18b

b18c

b16

b17

b20


The other requirement is the cost to convert to vtec, and install piston oil squirters (yes for road racing)... I'll acquire one with scarred cylinders, so which one should I go with? (in theory )?


[Modified by Black R, 4:34 PM 4/24/2002]

 

b18c

 

b20

 

the cheapest one you can find

 

If you want oil squirters just get the b18c.

 

btw, picked mine up from Golden Eagle last week, looks awesome. Very good work.

Ryan-who`s got a big surprise for the SoCallers

Ryan

 

THe best block to sleeve.???HHHmmmmm I would have to say mine Ken!!!!!!!!!! j/k
Hehehhe B18c all the way

 

wow, JDM style and everything!

 

b18c for the squirters if thats what you are looking for. cant go wrong

 

interesting how your main bearings are black. never seen that before.

 

squirters are overrated in my opinion.

 

.....I don't see no sleeves in there! That would be trick to have a 2.2L b18c from Golden Eagle in jdm land 'tho! Are you thinkin what I'm thinkin?

 

if the track is more that 1/4 mile long they are not.

Will
-who likes B17

 

there are those that say forged pistons do not need the cooling nearly as
much as the stock cast ones do. 1/4 mile OR road racing.

 

i am one of those.....forged pistons do not require them at all

 

There are those (like Willie) who say "better safe than sorry," or call it insurance..... I am of that mind.


[Modified by Black R, 4:56 PM 4/24/2002]

 

Is removing the heat from whatever piston (under hard usage for long periods of time) is used a good thing?

Forged piston + oil spray = cooler piston ? (than without oil spray)

 

no offense, but oil sqirters will not save a motor

 

There are those that also say keeping things TOO cool is a bad thing.

Also that extra oil will cause a power drain as well as increase the amount of
mass the crank has to move.

 

Spoon Graphite mains and rods they used them in there N1 engine's I still have 2 more complete sets since they are no longer made full yellow and full green set ...but the down side is that they cost a pretty penny ...And one nore thing these bearings have some pyramid shaping on the sides to better hold Oil on them..

 

i give you one guess what american V8 race teams re-machine their blocks to use in terms of bearings........HONDA FACTORY.

 

Is this to say on honda for adding them to the b series in the first place? Or are they no longer needed when upgrading to forged pistons?

Detrimental by 1-2whp in moving that extra oil around?

 

basically, spoon = honda factory.....

 

Man, will you PAY ATTENTION! on YOU not honda

 

lets see.... ummmmm NASCAR?