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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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Well, my junk yard R did well this weekend except for this..


You can see why the bushing is gone some one ground cuts in to the shafts and they ate the rubber out in one hpde weekend these were new on Friday..

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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 05:56 PM
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That's why I built mine out of spherical rods ends.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SMSP &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That's why I built mine out of spherical rods ends.</TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL....Its funny you say that the guy one pit over had the ball pop out of his...
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 06:06 PM
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i have SPC arms in that spot, and haven't had any issues. 2 races, and still going strong.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 06:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rene M &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

LOL....Its funny you say that the guy one pit over had the ball pop out of his...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well not all bearings are created equal or they aren't sized properly.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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I got the SPC arms and so for no issues this year either... but this might be a wake up call.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 06:29 PM
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Sorry to hear that the parts failed.... SPC's on 4 different track cars and never had that problem !
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 06:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have SPC arms in that spot, and haven't had any issues. 2 races, and still going strong.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I've had SPCs in mine for two seasons and haven't had any problems. Who makes those?

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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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anyone have experience with the ingalls arms?
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 07:20 PM
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SPC or ingalls poly? the ingalls are $5 cheaper....but if you guys have had great sucess with the SPC, then SPC it is...
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 07:33 PM
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I <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chrisw85 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">SPC or ingalls poly? the ingalls are $5 cheaper....but if you guys have had great sucess with the SPC, then SPC it is...</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have SPC's on the auto x car so i guess i should of stuck with what i know works..
This is not a bashing session just an FYI to look at your if you have some that look like this.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 07:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thawley &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I've had SPCs in mine for two seasons and haven't had any problems. Who makes those?

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and this dude had um on upside down!

jimmy- who probably would have made the same mistake had he not been hanging around thawleys car when bernardo made the discovery.


Modified by slammed_93_hatch at 8:51 PM 8/7/2006
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GSRCRXsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anyone have experience with the ingalls arms?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Raises hand. No problems after 3 years of tracking & racing.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 08:18 PM
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We have had SPC's on our DA for the last 2 years with at least 45 race weekends and more test days then I can count and the are just like new.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thawley &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Who makes those?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 04:07 AM
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could this failure be due to installer error? correct me if im wrong but shouldn't they be tightened while these are preloaded? im not saying that you did or did not do it this way. just something i thought of that i would like to know for future reference.
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 04:12 AM
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They remind me of my old SRR rear UCAs. If they are, I know a few other people that had big problems with them.
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 08:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GSRCRXsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anyone have experience with the ingalls arms?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No problems here, working on their 2nd season.

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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 08:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and this dude had um on upside down!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Damn, I forgot all about that...

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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 08:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thawley &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Damn, I forgot all about that...

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We all are.... i hope...
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 08:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1slowcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">could this failure be due to installer error? correct me if im wrong but shouldn't they be tightened while these are preloaded? im not saying that you did or did not do it this way. just something i thought of that i would like to know for future reference. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Unless you guys have ES style bushings where the metal sleeve is a free rotating piece, you NEED to get all bolts in, NOT tight, set control arms SAFELY on jackstands, then tighten, this way the bushings are at a rest with no load, and they perform as designed.
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 08:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by My95SlvrBlt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unless you guys have ES style bushings where the metal sleeve is a free rotating piece, you NEED to get all bolts in, NOT tight, set control arms SAFELY on jackstands, then tighten, this way the bushings are at a rest with no load, and they perform as designed.</TD></TR></TABLE>


He said jack stands..
Lok at the shaft and you can see why they failed, some one has cut croves in the shaft and the movement on the ftack made those like saw baldes and they chewed the rubber out. They will be delrin by tonight..
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 08:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rene M &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


He said jack stands..
Lok at the shaft and you can see why they failed, some one has cut croves in the shaft and the movement on the ftack made those like saw baldes and they chewed the rubber out. They will be delrin by tonight..</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ever seen a car fall from a jack/jackstands??? Imagine being under its quite an eye opening experience.
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 08:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by My95SlvrBlt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ever seen a car fall from a jack/jackstands??? Imagine being under its quite an eye opening experience.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well its a much shorter fall than mine took off the lift..
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 09:23 AM
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I've been running the ingals for 3 years. No problems.
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