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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 12:00 PM
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Anyone interested in LCAs that will allow you to use JDM ITR style suspension? If you're seriously interested, vote and reply and I'll get back with you guys.


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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 08:47 PM
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please be more specific, for example...are you just talking about the sway bar? becuase you can use the rear swaybar without teg lca...
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 08:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMFreak &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">please be more specific, for example...are you just talking about the sway bar? becuase you can use the rear swaybar without teg lca...</TD></TR></TABLE>

I am talking about JDM/ITR style spring/struts. Currently, there is no way to use ITR specific suspension on an EK, for EG/DC simply install the ITR LCA. This LCA would allow you to install ITR style suspension to the EK.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DavidR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I am talking about JDM/ITR style spring/struts. Currently, there is no way to use ITR specific suspension on an EK, for EG/DC simply install the ITR LCA. This LCA would allow you to install ITR style suspension to the EK.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ok thank you my vote would be no, i want to say CTR spring/struts style are almost the same as ITR, but i could be wrong...i remember reading the spring rates are 250 for F/R
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 09:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMFreak &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

ok thank you my vote would be no, i want to say CTR spring/struts style are almost the same as ITR, but i could be wrong...i remember reading the spring rates are 250 for F/R</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, I mean this type of shock




vs the standard EK type:



You can use any spring rate the maker of the suspension offers. At this point in time, there is no way to use ITR style suspension on an EK, be it from Tein or any of the other major suspension players.



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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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that one look beefy, and it also look like it will eliminate bolt being seized up...is that yours? or just pictures you found? what the wieght differences?
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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The top picture is a picture of an ITR LCA, which is shorter than the EK LCA pictured below it. I am gauging interest on an LCA that fits the EK, but can use the ITR style suspension. It would look similar to this, but of course would fit the EK.

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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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sick ^^^
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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y not use type r lcas?? they are a direct bolt in..
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LFA Squad :: Joon Joon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">y not use type r lcas?? they are a direct bolt in.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Incorrect, the EK arms are longer than the EG/DC/TypeR rear LCAs. You can only use the TypeR LCA on a 88-95 Civic, or 90-01 Integra. For 96-00 Civic, you can't use the JDM style rear shocks, currently.
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 11:25 AM
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all aftermarket lcas bring the wheel in anyways.. it doesnt really bring the wheel in that much.. its just a little difference
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LFA Squad :: Joon Joon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all aftermarket lcas bring the wheel in anyways.. it doesnt really bring the wheel in that much.. its just a little difference</TD></TR></TABLE>

Incorrect. All Function7 LCAs are manufactured to be the same length as OEM LCAs, as to not change the rear track width. The difference between EK and EG arms is quite substantial, over 2". I highly doubt you want to use EG LCAs on an EK with that kind of difference.
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LFA Squad :: Joon Joon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">y not use type r lcas?? they are a direct bolt in.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LFA Squad :: Joon Joon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all aftermarket lcas bring the wheel in anyways.. it doesnt really bring the wheel in that much.. its just a little difference</TD></TR></TABLE>

Please stop spreading misinformation.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 11:56 PM
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^^^yeah no **** omfg i felt stupid reading the responses. i say go for it, i need some....ive came across so many nice type r specific suspensions that i wanted to try out but couldnt because of my ek lca being all weird.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 11:58 PM
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why are you guys voting no? using ITR specific coilovers will open up SOOOOO many more choices for you..
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 11:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by soundbomber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why are you guys voting no? using ITR specific coilovers will open up SOOOOO many more choices for you..</TD></TR></TABLE>

I was beginning to wonder myself.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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not to **** on your thread, but couldnt ppl just get JDM stock arms if they really wanted to use JDM dampers?
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 01:02 PM
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dood did you read the thread?!?!?

<U>DO YOU PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND THE LENGTH OF AN EK CONTROL ARM IS LONGER THAN THAT OF A TYPE R?!?!?</U>

the product he is offering is to solve this problem


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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not to **** on your thread, but couldnt ppl just get JDM stock arms if they really wanted to use JDM dampers?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I am not aware that the EK9 has this style of rear LCA. Do you have any photo evidence to support your claim?
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 01:27 PM
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<U><FONT SIZE="50">DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ALL LCA ARE LIKE THAT IN JAPAN? NOT JUST TYPE R! </FONT></U>

putz.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 01:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DavidR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I am not aware that the EK9 has this style of rear LCA. Do you have any photo evidence to support your claim?</TD></TR></TABLE>

david, EK's might be the exception where they started to not make eyelet shocks in the rear. im not sure. but you understand that those arms not exclusive to the type r.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 01:35 PM
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EK LCA's are ALL the same, and are all unique to the EK chassis only. so i don't even know what length has to do with it. the purpose that DavidR's LCA project would be is make it so that EK's can use eyebolt style ITR coilovers...
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 01:38 PM
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so youre confirming that EK's, even in japan and elsewhere, have the same LCA that we got in the US.

if thats the case, i respectfully retract my first statement.

however, not the putz comment.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 01:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by soundbomber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">EK LCA's are ALL the same, and are all unique to the EK chassis only. so i don't even know what length has to do with it. the purpose that DavidR's LCA project would be is make it so that EK's can use eyebolt style ITR coilovers...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well put. Everyone knows that the front shocks are the same between EK/DC/EG, but its the rear on the EK that hinders everyone from using JDM R suspensions on an EK. A lot of the companies make EK specific parts, but in some cases they don't. These LCAs would allow the retrofit from DC2R suspension to an EK, thats all.

Thanks!

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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 01:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so youre confirming that EK's, even in japan and elsewhere, have the same LCA that we got in the US.

if thats the case, i respectfully retract my first statement.

however, not the putz comment.</TD></TR></TABLE>that much i can confirm, and i can also confirm that kidkombo is a putz
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