I´m helping out team AVR in Sweden that bought Laskey racings old crx. The engine are distroyed in to orbit and we need a new short block.

Im figguring a b18c sleeved and bored to 84 mm and a LS crank should be a great set up but is there any good rods to use for this drag set up.

I´m hearing good stuff about pauter.. But is there a rod for this set up or do we have to order custom made ones..?

Any input would be nice.. Thanks.. Fredrik..

 

Use LS rods, and Manley and Pauter are good.

 

Ar´nt B18c taller than LS or does these block have the same deck hight?
If those are the same deck hight ther is no point in spending the extra dollars to get a b18c block.. then we will just get a new Ls block.

B18b/a does not exist in any cars from faktory in europe but I can get a new one of course from us...

 

Same deck height, the B16A has the shorter deck height. The B18C block does have internal oiling passages for VTEC and an OEM main girdle. I'd start with a B18C block if you can...

 

What happened to the old engine?

 

They ran it on methanol and it was a gas motor in the car

 

What's the difference in the motor? You mean they ran it on a gas tune with methanol in it?

 

I hope that's what Earl means....

That and if it had a fuel system setup for gas, the injectors would'nt be anywhere near adequate enough to supply the amount of fuel it would need...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What's the difference in the motor? You mean they ran it on a gas tune with methanol in it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

id like to know the differance too. we just use off the shelf parts any old street car could use our "methanol engine" in their car with a new tune on it.......

 

They did a lot of work to the hole car to have it in the shape they wanted it. And it was ofcourse retuned for methanol with a different swedich stand alone system called NIRA. The turbo that was on the car when it came from US held up for one dyno pull and was replaysed with a gt40 ball bearing. I´m not blaming anyone. That´s racing...

I´m not familiar with what exactly happend but somthing whent wrong to cause the wastegate vaccum hose to leak and the new turbo boosted as much as it fysicly could and a rod snapped.. Everything was toste but we think the head is still ok.

We´re now looking for a new short block..


Modified by The sweed at 9:37 AM 8/7/2006

 

(They ran it on methanol and it was a gas motor in the car)


This has to be the funniest thing I have ever heard.

You go Earl.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The sweed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They did a lot of work to the hole car to have it in the shape they wanted it. And it was ofcourse retuned for methanol with a different swedich stand alone system called NIRA. The turbo that was on the car when it came from US held up for one dyno pull and was replaysed with a gt40 ball bearing. I´m not blaming anyone. That´s racing...

I´m not familiar with what exactly happend but somthing whent wrong to cause the wastegate vaccum hose to leak and the new turbo boosted as much as it fysicly could and a rod snapped.. Everything was toste but we think the head is still ok.

We´re now looking for a new short block..


Modified by The sweed at 9:37 AM 8/7/2006</TD></TR></TABLE>


I don't understand how a perfect running car could be destroyed so fast? My guess is either sitting in a crate for 2 months going across seas or who knows what? That was a gt40 that came with the car by the way. It was bought from Precision Turbo and prolly is still under warranty? It ran perfect for us for a handful of times! The car was tuned on a GAS setup making 500whp on a low boost setting. It made a handful of 9.70 passes at Palmdale and not more then a week or 2 later, it was sold in this perfect running condition. The bottom end was built with Crower rods... These were fine for a GASOLINE motor. Normally we would use Pauter rods for a high HP METH. motor. The car was sold as turnkey GASOLINE race package. I know the motor was apart a couple of times. Maybe something happen to the turbo at some point during this? We set a complete new set of valves because the first set were bent?

TOM, all you like to do is make me or Earl look bad! Try and post something helpful for people once in awhile

BTW: The block that we had in the car was an LS with a GSR girdle machined in. We also used an LS crank. When building a new block, use Pauters...a better rod for big HP.





Modified by ninesecrx at 2:51 PM 8/7/2006

 

LOL

I dont need to make you look bad you guys do a good job on your own.

I just thought it was funny.

Mike you should not get so mad at funny things.

Tom J

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TOM J &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LOL

I dont need to make you look bad you guys do a good job on your own.

I just thought it was funny.

Mike you should not get so mad at funny things.

Tom J</TD></TR></TABLE>

I am not mad, just stating the fact that you have no contribution ever to help people I don' feel that someones misfortune is a laughing mater nor funny Someones misfortune makes you feel better about yourself and it makes you laugh, but I don't feel that way

The team has contacted us about working with them on a new bottom end so hopefully we will see the CRX up and running hard again soon




Modified by ninesecrx at 3:03 PM 8/7/2006

 

this can get interesting

 

LOL

Your a funny guy mike.

I have helped more people and teams in the last 18 years then you will help in a life time. You are just angry with me because I will tell it how it is and you dont like it.
But Why are you so angry at me I was not the only one who thought it was funny. (They ran it on methanol and it was a gas motor in the car) That is a funny statement. You should be laughing as well.

keep in mind that this is Honda-tech not Lasky-Tech so I wiil tell it how it is when I see stupid statements weather you like it or not. It is not my fault that most of them are from you guys.

You should not be so angry.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TOM J &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LOL

Your a funny guy mike.

I have helped more people and teams in the last 18 years then you will help in a life time. You are just angry with me because I will tell it how it is and you dont like it.
But Why are you so angry at me I was not the only one who thought it was funny. (They ran it on methanol and it was a gas motor in the car) That is a funny statement. You should be laughing as well.

keep in mind that this is Honda-tech not Lasky-Tech so I wiil tell it how it is when I see stupid statements weather you like it or not. It is not my fault that most of them are from you guys.

You should not be so angry. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Help, not give bad advice Tom. The only statement about the meth was the rods that were used, nothing else. I had a customer come in the other day and told me you were recommending aluminum rods for his 300hp daily driver Sounds like some solid help. Next time try spelling my name correct BTW, I have been told I am funny guy thanks for the compliment

 

ok ok pm each other before it gets locked.

 

LOL

OP of the thread,
look into Carrillo rods, we use them on both gas and methonal cars and have never had a problem with them...

 

I've heard that you always use the same rod and crank combo no matter what block.... talking B series....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fooleo’s boosted &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've heard that you always use the same rod and crank combo no matter what block.... talking B series....</TD></TR></TABLE>

No , B18C, B18B and B16B all have the same deck height, B16A are approx 7mm shorter. The B16B has the same stroke as a B16A with a longer rod

Now part of your comment is true, you could use the same rod and crank combo in any of the B series blocks BUT in a B16A block you would have to move the wrist pin up a bit to make it work

Edit:Corrected B18B twice, put B16B in for the correction


Modified by Boostfed.com at 4:44 PM 8/8/2006

 

Terry pretty much said it, but the CTR block, B16B can be added to the list of 270mm blocks (GSR, ITR, LS, CRV, etc.) as well. And the B17A can go with the B16A, at 263mm

 

so the way i figure it the use of a gsr block with a ls crank is to get the 89mm stroke but with the strength of a gsr with the girdle and vtec oil passages!

 

How sad mike

I like how you changed your post. What happend to the looser and the profanity you used.

What happend your dad gona ban you too. LOL

I am not laughing at this poor guys misfortune.

I am laughing at the stupid comment your dad made.

I too don' feel that someones misfortune is a laughing mater.

You should be more worried about this guys motor not what I have to say.

Tom J

 

Yeah, I felt calling you a name on a public board was childish of me so I changed it, have a nice day and let me know when you can get me that cash